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 Paulo Henrique GANSO 2009-2011 
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Name: Paulo Henrique Ganso

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Santos FC
Position: *AMF
Side: LF/BS
Age: 20-22 years (12/10/1989)

Height: 184 cm
Weight: 78 kg

Attack: 80
Defence: 42
Balance: 80
Stamina: 78
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 80
Response: 75
Agility: 80
Dribble Accuracy: 87
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 85
Short Pass Speed: 86
Long Pass Accuracy: 84
Long Pass Speed: 85
Shot Accuracy: 74
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 78
Free Kick Accuracy: 80
Curling: 84
Header: 70
Jump: 77
Technique: 87
Aggression: 76
Mentality: 70
Keeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 76

Injury Tolerance: C
Condition/Fitness: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
Consistency: 5
Growth type: Standard

CARDS:
P01: Classic N°10
P03: Trickster
S01: 1-touch play
S02: Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Playmaking - Centre - 1-Touch Pass - Outside


Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:24 pm
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I have some notes ,that can enhance this set.
1. His name is Paulo Henrique Chagas de Lima and his nickname is Ganso.

2.Era probably will suit better if is 2010-2011 , in the season 2009 he was only a young "talent" even he was very inconsistency also hes level in the 2011 Libertadores is too far away that the 2009 season.

3.He was very unagile , i see him more like 76-77 he has the same body agile that Riquelme in some kind of point.

4.His serius injury problens begins in the end of 2011 after that he was not so fragile , not at his era 2011-2013.

5. If you take my suggestion of change era , he easily will deserved 5 in CON and 6 in CONS he always keeps his performances at a decent level back them.

6.He don't really deserved the Dribbling on SA , he looks more on T. Dribbling , like i said he reminds me to Riquelme.


Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:17 am
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How his lack of mobility and intensity is represented on that stats? I see 77 top speed and 80 acceleration and it looks too much, no? In general, Ganso used to have a slow style of play.

Also, he had a geniality like few I've seen in my life. He could find game solutions that were just fantastic. It is like he had an extra eye in the back of his head.

A very talented player who would be one of the best if he was playing in the 70's.


Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:08 pm
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Bola Clássica wrote:
How his lack of mobility and intensity is represented on that stats? I see 77 top speed and 80 acceleration and it looks too much, no? In general, Ganso used to have a slow style of play.

Also, he had a geniality like few I've seen in my life. He could find game solutions that were just fantastic. It is like he had an extra eye in the back of his head.

A very talented player who would be one of the best if he was playing in the 70's.


TS 77 shouldn't make him very fast on long distance while he'd be slightly faster on short spaces due to ACC 80. On the other hand, AGI 80 and especially DS 75 would make him quite slow with the ball. Let's not forget STA 78 and MEN 70. He's likely to get even slower in the second half.


Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:17 pm
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Interista93 wrote:
Bola Clássica wrote:
How his lack of mobility and intensity is represented on that stats? I see 77 top speed and 80 acceleration and it looks too much, no? In general, Ganso used to have a slow style of play.

Also, he had a geniality like few I've seen in my life. He could find game solutions that were just fantastic. It is like he had an extra eye in the back of his head.

A very talented player who would be one of the best if he was playing in the 70's.


TS 77 shouldn't make him very fast on long distance while he'd be slightly faster on short spaces due to ACC 80. On the other hand, AGI 80 and especially DS 75 would make him quite slow with the ball. Let's not forget STA 78 and MEN 70. He's likely to get even slower in the second half.


I believe it wasnt a matter of losing pace on the second half. In fact, I dont think thats apply for him during 2009 till 2011.

His problem was always intensity and to cover the field. He used to slow the game speed but when he found a space he used to be very accurate on unlikely creative passes. I really gifted player.


Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:51 pm
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Bola Clássica wrote:
His problem was always intensity and to cover the field. He used to slow the game speed but when he found a space he used to be very accurate on unlikely creative passes. I really gifted player.


That's kinda what MEN does. Lower the value, faster the player loses intensity, gets tired quicker, less willingly helps to cover the field or supports his teammates.


Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:54 pm
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Default PES 2013 Set:

Spoiler: show
Position: ★AMF

Injury Tolerance: A
Foot: L
Side: B

Height: 184 cm
Weight: 73 kg

Attack: 80
Defence: 38
Balance: 76
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 76
Acceleration: 74
Response: 72
Agility: 74
Dribble Accuracy: 89
Dribble Speed: 73
Short Pass Accuracy: 90
Short Pass Speed: 82
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 76
Shot Accuracy: 81
Shot Power: 78
Shot Technique: 74
Free Kick Accuracy: 78
Curling: 75
Header: 73
Jump: 70
Technique: 89
Aggression: 72
Mentality: 69
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 75

Condition: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
Consistency: 4

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★Tactical Dribble
★Passing

Growth Type: Early/Lasting

Dribble Style: 1
Free Kick Style: 1


Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:05 am
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El Capo wrote:
Default PES 2013 Set:

Spoiler: show
Position: ★AMF

Injury Tolerance: A
Foot: L
Side: B

Height: 184 cm
Weight: 73 kg

Attack: 80
Defence: 38
Balance: 76
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 76
Acceleration: 74
Response: 72
Agility: 74
Dribble Accuracy: 89
Dribble Speed: 73
Short Pass Accuracy: 90
Short Pass Speed: 82
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 76
Shot Accuracy: 81
Shot Power: 78
Shot Technique: 74
Free Kick Accuracy: 78
Curling: 75
Header: 73
Jump: 70
Technique: 89
Aggression: 72
Mentality: 69
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 75

Condition: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
Consistency: 4

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★Tactical Dribble
★Passing

Growth Type: Early/Lasting

Dribble Style: 1
Free Kick Style: 1


Cool! I would increase a bit his free kick, curling, shot technique and shot power though.

Reminding that Ganso had his prime before, at Santos, not at São Paulo where he played on 2013.


Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:46 pm
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Doesn't really matter. Sometimes the default sets were just made to emulate the best moments of a certain players regardless of the club which they were playing (think about Kaká' PES 2011, that set screamed AC Milan vibes, no way he was THAT good after his first year at Real Madrid, right?).
And we confirm that the default set is actually very representative of Ganso' peak as a player, highlighting his strengths and weaknesses.


Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:53 pm
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El Capo wrote:
Doesn't really matter. Sometimes the default sets were just made to emulate the best moments of a certain players regardless of the club which they were playing (think about Kaká' PES 2011, that set screamed AC Milan vibes, no way he was THAT good after his first year at Real Madrid, right?).
And we confirm that the default set is actually very representative of Ganso' peak as a player, highlighting his strengths and weaknesses.


Great! Got it! So, I would only increase those stats I mentioned to really represent his peak.


Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:23 pm
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Speed is a bit high IMO


Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:55 pm
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Also, Im not sure if it is right to attribute A for his "injury tolerance" as Konami suggests. On 2010 he had a huge knee injury which took him away of the field for 6 months.

That injury change his gameplay forever, he wasnt ever be the same when come back. Thats why we also should considerate his "growth type" as some kind of early peak with no continuously, never "early/lasting".


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