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Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
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Author:  Interista93 [ Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:27 am ]
Post subject:  Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
Team created by TheGreatRossonero, updated by Interista93 and Nacho1605

CLUB ESTUDIANTES DE LA PLATA ALL STARS


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COACH: :ARG: Osvaldo ZUBELDÍA

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GOALKEEPERS:

:ARG: Alberto POLETTI
:ARG: Mariano ANDÚJAR


DEFENDERS:

:ARG: Oscar MALBERNAT
:ARG: Raúl MADERO
:ARG: Ramón AGUIRRE SUÁREZ
:ARG: Rubén PAGNANINI
:ARG: Abel HERRERA
:ARG: José Luis BROWN
:ARG: Leandro DESÁBATO


MIDFIELDERS:

:ARG: Carlos BILARDO
:ARG: Carlos PACHAMÉ
:ARG: Miguel Ángel RUSSO
:ARG: Eduardo FLORES
:ARG: José Daniel PONCE
:ARG: Alejandro SABELLA
:ARG: Juan Sebastián VERÓN
:ARG: Rodrigo BRAÑA


FORWARDS:

:ARG: Alberto ZOZAYA
:ARG: Manuel PELEGRINA
:ARG: Ricardo INFANTE
:ARG: Juan Ramón VERÓN
:ARG: Marcos CONIGLIARO
:ARG: Hugo GOTTARDI


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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

:ARG: Emilio FERNÁNDEZ
:ARG: Gabriel OGANDO
:ARG: Oscar PEZZANO
:ARG: Luis ISLAS


DEFENDERS:

:ARG: Carlos GALUP
:ARG: Ludovico PASTOR
:ARG: Héctor BLOTTO
:ARG: Walter GARCERÓN
:ARG: Eduardo MANERA
:ARG: José Hugo MEDINA
:ARG: Horacio RODRÍGUEZ
:ARG: Carlos ROCCA
:ARG: Julián CAMINO
:ARG: Rubén AGÜERO
:ARG: Néstor CRAVIOTTO
:ARG: Agustín ALAYES
:ARG: Marcos ANGELERI
:ARG: Christian CELLAY
:ARG: Germán RÉ


MIDFIELDERS:

:ARG: Ovidio DUARTE INDART
:ARG: Roberto SBARRA
:ARG: Héctor ANTONIO
:ARG: Juan ECHECOPAR
:ARG: Néstor TOGNERI
:ARG: Daniel ROMEO
:ARG: Patricio HERNÁNDEZ
:ARG: Sergio GURRIERI
:ARG: Héctor VARGAS
:ARG: Marcelo TROBBIANI
:ARG: Leandro BENÍTEZ
:ARG: José Ernesto SOSA
:ARG: Enzo PÉREZ
:ARG: Gastón FERNÁNDEZ
:ARG: Santiago ASCACÍBAR


FORWARDS:

:ARG: Jorge Luis HIRSCHI
:ARG: Manuel FERREIRA
:ARG: Alejandro SCOPELLI
:ARG: Miguel Ángel LAURI
:ARG: Enrique GUAITA
:ARG: Juan José NEGRI
:ARG: Camilo AGUILAR
:ARG: Rubén GALLETTI
:ARG: Sergio FORTUNATO
:ARG: Guillermo TRAMA
:ARG: José Luis CALDERÓN
:ARG: Ernesto FARÍAS
:ARG: Mariano PAVONE
:ARG: Mauro BOSELLI
:ARG: Guido CARILLO




THE BEST EVER XI

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GK POLETTI
CB BROWN
CB AGUIRRE SUÁREZ
RB PAGNANINI
LB MALBERNAT ©
DMF PACHAMÉ
DMF/CMF BILARDO
CMF/AMF J.S. VERÓN
LWF PELEGRINA
SS J.R. VERÓN
CF INFANTE

Captain: Oscar Malbernat | Juan Sebastián Verón | José Luis Brown
Short free kick: Juan Sebastián Verón | Juan Ramón Verón
Long free kick: Juan Sebastián Verón
Right corner: Juan Sebastián Verón
Left corner: Juan Sebastián Verón | Manuel Pelegrina
Penalty: Juan Sebastián Verón
Author:  27DONI72 [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
Thanks for the team.
There are two Angeleri, one in first team and another one in reserves.

I'm surprised to not see Manuel Ferreira in first team.
Author:  TheGreatRossonero [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
Thanks, fixed.

About Manuel Ferreira, he could be in first team he was part of that great attack called "Los Profesores", but i don't know, first team has some Copa Libertadores Champions (68-70' & 09'), top goalscorers in club's history.
Probably we can swap him for Farias but imo i've prefer "El Tecla" stay there.
Author:  TheGreatRossonero [ Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
I thought we had Pelegrina in the database :shock: , i will post my set, i just have to update him since i've create him back in 2015. ;)
Author:  Milos [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
It's your call but I'd put Nolo in the first team instead of Farias as he is bigger star in Argentinean football history than Farias and he played longer for the club.
Author:  artemds [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
I agree with Nolo in first team.
Author:  El Capo [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
If you don't really want to add Nolo Ferreira in first squad, you can also add the missing member of "Los Profesores" attacking force: Alejandro Scopelli.
Author:  TheGreatRossonero [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
Ok, I understand your points guys, Ferreira was a good player of the amateur era who wear the EDLP shirt, and clearly if you add the goals of Ferreira in the amateur era he would exceed in quantity to Farias and J. R. Verón, but I want to clarify something, in Argentina we are guided by a different idiosyncrasy, the players of the amateur era and the titles they won have a special place and are relatively respected, but honestly do not have the same weight as the titles and goals achieved in the professional era of Argentine football.
In our football society it is a humorous theme to see that some teams consider their amateur titles relevant(even more than the actuals)talking about specific case Boca Juniors, or maybe Racing that currently lives only from the memory of their old glory days. Farias is the fifth historical scorer in professionalism and Veron was a multi-champion in a glorious time for EDLP, after reading this argument, you guys can express whether they your want change or not. If there is a majority vote on changing to Farias for Ferreira, I will do it. ;)

Yep i will added Scopelli later.
Author:  gurkenjoe93 [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
Milos wrote:
It's your call but I'd put Nolo in the first team instead of Farias as he is bigger star in Argentinean football history than Farias and he played longer for the club.

+1, you exactly pointed out all the reasons why Ferreira deserves his spot here and not Farias..
Author:  artemds [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
Well the foro is not for/from Argentina is for the opinions of members and all agree Nolo deserves more than Farias, who honestly was an average player...
Author:  TheGreatRossonero [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
artemds wrote:
Well the foro is not for/from Argentina is for the opinions of members and all agree Nolo deserves more than Farias, who honestly was an average player...


That is not the point, i'm only highlighting how we manage around our football, about Ferreira you only can find texta and some other related to him in the "Sede Social" of EDLP, besides i don't know if someone was better than other, Farias was great at his prime, but if you want to remove him i don't have any problem.

PD: Careful, about the statments that you give guys, don't trust only in the descriptions, because otherwise some comments will be taken as random suggestions.
Author:  artemds [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
Farias was very average even Pavone is better...
Author:  TheGreatRossonero [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
artemds wrote:
Farias was very average even Pavone is better...
Really mate :?

His 2002/04's seasons says other things about his performances.
Author:  artemds [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
A player of 2 good years (average level) and then playing very bad in River ... after in second division in Colombia... Pavone is still playing in Argentina at least.
Author:  El Capo [ Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Estudiantes de La Plata All Stars
I wouldn't say that he played bad at River, he even has a better ratio app/goals there, top scorer of La Copa Libertadores (ok, wasn't the same playing with River that with Estudiantes).
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