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 Roberto BAGGIO 1992-1994 | 1997-1999 | 2001-2004 
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Name: Roberto Baggio

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Country: :ITA: Italy
Clubs: Juventus
Position: SS , CF , AMF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 25-27 years (18/02/1967)

Height: 174 cm
Weight: 72 kg

Attack: 93
Defence: 42
Balance: 74
Stamina: 79
Top Speed: 78
Acceleration: 86
Response: 85
Agility: 85
Dribble Accuracy: 97
Dribble Speed: 88
Short Pass Accuracy: 92
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 90
Long Pass Speed: 72
Shot Accuracy: 94
Shot Power: 78
Shot Technique: 95
Free Kick Accuracy: 92
Curling: 92
Header: 79
Jump: 71
Technique: 98
Aggression: 86
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 85

Injury Tolerance: C
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 6
Consistency: 7
Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

CARDS:
P10 - Incisive Run
S02 - Passer
S03 - 1-On-1 Finish
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-Touch Play
S06 - Outside Curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills
S20 - Flicking Skills
S21 - Step On Skills

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribble - Passing - 1-On-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Freekick Style: 4

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


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Name: Roberto Baggio

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Country: :ITA: Italy
Clubs: Bologna | Internazionale
Position: SS , CF , AMF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 31-32 years (18/02/1967)

Height: 174 cm
Weight: 72 kg

Attack: 96
Defence: 42
Balance: 74
Stamina: 76
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 83
Response: 82
Agility: 83
Dribble Accuracy: 96
Dribble Speed: 83
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 90
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 95
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 96
Free Kick Accuracy: 92
Curling: 92
Header: 74
Jump: 67
Technique: 98
Aggression: 75
Mentality: 85
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 85

Injury Tolerance: C
Condition: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 6
Consistency: 7
Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

CARDS:
P10 - Incisive Run
S02 - Passer
S03 - 1-On-1 Finish
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-Touch Play
S06 - Outside Curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills
S20 - Flicking Skills
S21 - Step On Skills

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Passing - 1-On-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Freekick Style: 4

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


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Name: Roberto Baggio

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Country: :ITA: Italy
Club: Brescia
Position: SS , AMF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 34-37 years (18/02/1967)

Height: 174 cm
Weight: 72 kg

Attack: 93
Defence: 42
Balance: 73
Stamina: 74
Top Speed: 73
Acceleration: 76
Response: 88
Agility: 79
Dribble Accuracy: 96
Dribble Speed: 76
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 90
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 94
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 95
Free Kick Accuracy: 92
Curling: 92
Header: 73
Jump: 67
Technique: 99
Aggression: 73
Mentality: 92
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 93

Injury Tolerance: C
Condition: 3
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 6
Consistency: 8
Growth Type: Standard/Lasting

CARDS:
P10 - Incisive Run
S02 - Passer
S03 - 1-On-1 Finish
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-Touch Play
S06 - Outside Curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills
S20 - Flicking Skills
S21 - Step On Skills

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - 1-On-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Freekick Style: 4

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:30 pm
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Are you sure about this TW and passing value for Baggio in second and third set? I feel that his passes are much more inconsistent compared to Zidane in any era, and his TW looks very contrasted with his crappy stamina value, especially since players that has lowered fitness usually not moving that much anymore.


Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:54 am
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In my opinion his TW looks very overrated in two last sets and underrated in first set, why he has only 80?... I see him in his prime at Juventus equal or little lower than Messi in 2009-2012's set (85).

Finally for the other sets, looks overrated for me, TW in 1997-98 should be yellow, I personally think 87 could suit him, STA could be higher, 79 for me is fine, he had that STA to at least ran and keep the level for 60 or 70 minutes

And the same for 2000-04, he should have 90-91... In my opinion the only one set for him who deserves orange value in TW. And well, I have my personal doubts about his MENT... Why? Well, I saw the set made by Konami for this player, and they give him 88. For me a suitable value for this set.


Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:56 pm
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I agreed with your TW suggestions. Maybe 89 for the last set instead since i don't feel he's that much mobile than Zidane in his twilight years. I don't like giving high orange TW for players with low STA, but thinking about it again, Baggio's mobility made high teamwork suited him. And agreed on higher TW for his Juventus stat.
I also agree with MENT and STA.
Also, do you think that the current passing stats suited him? For me, his passes seems to got intercepted far more often than players with similar values on accuracy like Guti and Zidane. But maybe the low speed pass stats already enough since it's the lacks of power that made his passes went into the wrong feet.


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For me his Pass skills are good, they were too slow, and thats why they were intercepted... But as accuracy I think he was in the level of Guti and Zidane, yes... Maybe too high his Long passes skills in latest two sets, but I prefer say anything before to re-watch more matches from him before, I'm talking from my memory right now, as you know guys, I'm very busy this first days of September :lol:


Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:57 pm
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Updated Naka's sets, and added AMF to prime set, here're the old sets:

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Name: Roberto Baggio

Nickname: "Il Divin Codino"


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Country: :ITA: Italy
Club: Juventus F.C.
Number: 10
Position: *SS, CF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 23-27 years (18/02/1967)

Height: 174 cm
Weight: 73 kg

Attack: 90
Defence: 44
Balance: 78
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 81
Acceleration: 85
Response: 85
Agility: 86
Dribble Accuracy: 96
Dribble Speed: 88
Short Pass Accuracy: 86
Short Pass Speed: 80
Long Pass Accuracy: 87
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 94
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 90
Free Kick Accuracy: 93
Curling: 96
Header: 77
Jump: 76
Technique: 96
Aggression: 86
Mentality: 77
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 80

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 6
Consistency: 7
Growth type: Standard

CARDS:
S02 - Passer
S03 - 1-on-1 Finish
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-touch Play
S06 - Outside curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills
S16 - Roulette Skills
S20 - Flicking Skills
S21 - Step On Skills
P10 - Incisive Run
P15 - Free Roaming

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Passing - 1-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


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STATS BY NAKAYAMA#9

ERA 1997-1998

Name: Roberto Baggio

Nickname: "Il Divin Codino"


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Country: :ITA: Italy
Club: Bologna F.C.
Number: 10
Position: *SS, CF, AM
Side: RF/BS
Age: 30-31 years (18/02/1967)
Era: 1997-1998

Height: 174 cm
Weight: 73 kg

Attack: 93
Defence: 44
Balance: 76
Stamina: 77
Top Speed: 78
Acceleration: 83
Response: 85
Agility: 84
Dribble Accuracy: 96
Dribble Speed: 82
Short Pass Accuracy: 93
Short Pass Speed: 79
Long Pass Accuracy: 90
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 96
Shot Power: 79
Shot Technique: 95
Free Kick Accuracy: 94
Curling: 96
Header: 78
Jump: 71
Technique: 97
Aggression: 82
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 90

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 6
Consistency: 7
Growth type: Early/Lasting

CARDS:
P01: Classic No. 10
S02: Passer
S03: 1-on-1 Finish
S04: PK Taker
S05: 1-touch Play
S06: Outside Curve
S15: Shoulder Feint Skills
S16: Roulette Skills
S20: Flicking Skills
S21: Step On Skills

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribbling - Passing - 1-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


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His best season ever!-He wasn't maybe that quick like before ,but he became one of the completest offensive players ever and a permanent goalscorer.
In 30 matches for Bologna in the season 1997/98 he scored 22 goals and got back his place in the Italian national team for the 1998 world cup in France.


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STATS BY NAKAYAMA#9

ERA 2000-2004

Name: Roberto Baggio

Nickname: "Il Divin Codino"


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Country: :ITA: Italy
Club: Brescia
Number: 10
Position: *SS, CF, AM
Side: RF/BS
Age: 33-37 years (18/02/1967)
Era: 2000-2004

Height: 174 cm
Weight: 73 kg

Attack: 91
Defence: 44
Balance: 74
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 74
Acceleration: 77
Response: 85
Agility: 82
Dribble Accuracy: 96
Dribble Speed: 79
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 90
Long Pass Speed: 74
Shot Accuracy: 94
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 95
Free Kick Accuracy: 94
Curling: 96
Header: 74
Jump: 67
Technique: 97
Aggression: 77
Mentality: 92
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 93

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 6
Consistency: 7
Growth type: Late/Lasting

CARDS:
P01: Classic No. 10
S02: Passer
S03: 1-on-1 Finish
S04: PK Taker
S05: 1-touch Play
S06: Outside Curve
S15: Shoulder Feint Skills
S16: Roulette Skills
S20: Flicking Skills
S21: Step On Skills

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribbling - Passing - 1-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:43 pm
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He really deserve 99 TEC in Brescia :?

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he deserves a 98 of TECH in his prime era, also a higher pass capacity. SPA 92-93 and LPA 88-89-90

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It could be 99 in DA/TEC in all the sets, Baggio is arguably the best dribbler in terms of pure quality, no one comes close to him, not even Garrincha nor Littbarski..

In the update, some values are still debatables, like TW and FKA ,which i think that it should remain in the old values (talking about FKA)...

As for suggestions in prime set i agree with it..


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Baggio better than Littbarski or Best? No way, considering that he sits on the same level as Cruyff (who was a better dribbler than Baggio btw) is already fair enough. Same for TEC btw, there is absolutely no reason to put him on a level with Zidane..
And passing stats are fine as they are, he became better in this aspects in his later years, not during his prime..


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Cocerning DA, I also think that Baggio is inferior to Best, anyway. Thus I'd be okay with 98 although I liked the original value better. Same with TEC: Imo, he isn't on the same level as the likes of Zidane, Maradona and Ronaldinho. So, TEC 97-98 is the maximum I could agree with.

I'm also not sure about ATT 96. I mean, his Bologna season was exceptional but since especially on this site red ATT values are given very rarely to Non-CF-players, I'm not sure whether he truly deserves that value.


Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:48 am
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Mate, can I ask you a question?
Why do you update and edit the previous sets made by good stats makers without asking anyone or without at least posting your ideas? These sets of Baggio could be updated, but probably no one here wants to have 99 in TEC for him, so why don't you put your suggestions before updating everything?
This is a forum, everyone has his ideas, we have to respect each other and our works, and even if some members are not active anymore, and others (like me) have few time to work here, we should at least try to work TOGETHER.


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The old sets are there if people wants to keep them, i'm just updating the sets made by this former member since MagicDip have gave me the updated version of this stats made by, worth the redundancy, Naka..

Saeta wrote:
I'm also not sure about ATT 96. I mean, his Bologna season was exceptional but since especially on this site red ATT values are given very rarely to Non-CF-players, I'm not sure whether he truly deserves that value.


:roll: I do not follow this since ATT in the old format isn't just how good the poacher is, because if it was, then i'm pretty sure that all the greatest players, like Di Stefano, Maradona, Pele, Cruijff (except from let's say, G. Muller who is a poacher) wouldn't have been rated orange-red Attack since aren't goal poachers..


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El Capo wrote:
The old sets are there if people wants to keep them, i'm just updating the sets made by this former member since MagicDip have gave me the updated version of this stats made by, worth the redundancy, Naka..


No, old sets are here if they are good, and unless there are no more suggestions, the stats will remain the same.
I don't like that you're updating old stats without giving explanation. Why DA from 96 to 98? Why TEC from 97 to 98 and 99? Why now there are almost 10 points of difference between MEN&TMW from 1997-1998 to 2000-2004? Why ATT in 1997-1998 is now at 96?
Please give explanation when you update a player. No, it's better if you don't update them at all, before asking suggestions from the other members.
MagicDip gave you new sets? Ok, that's fine, why don't you post them on the reply, instead of updating the previous ones? Maybe the other members don't agree with your idea or MagicDip's or Nakayama's or anyone else's. So, probably, we can find a compromise, or if everyone agrees, you can update. But, before updating, post your sets in the reply.


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@ Capo: Yes, but the original set already had an orange attack value. Thus his ability to create dangerous situations was at a world class level. But 96 is just too much for him, especially since players like Zico and Platini don't even have orange ATT values although being not only way more prolific goalscorers but also better offensive players in general than Baggio had ever been. :?


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