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KONAMI
Joined: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:48 pm Posts: 390
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STATS BY KONAMIName: Raúl González Blanco Country: SpainClub: Real Madrid C.F.Position: *CF, SS, AMFSide: LF/BSAge: 22-25 years (27/06/1977) Height: 180 cm Weight: 68 kg Attack: 94Defence: 48Balance: 79Stamina: 85Top Speed: 82Acceleration: 84Response: 94Agility: 85Dribble Accuracy: 86Dribble Speed: 77Short Pass Accuracy: 86Short Pass Speed: 78Long Pass Accuracy: 81Long Pass Speed: 75Shot Accuracy: 93Shot Power: 80Shot Technique: 94Free Kick Accuracy: 75Curling: 78Header: 83Jump: 77Technique: 90Aggression: 91Mentality: 87Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 85Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 7Growth type: StandardPES 2013 CARDS: S01: 1-touch Play S02: Outside curve S07: Shoulder Feint Skills S18: Heel Flick P13: Dummy Runner SPECIAL ABILITIES: Positioning - Scoring - 1-on-1 Scoring - 1-touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded Quote: A prolific goalscorer and a highly creative forward, Raúl is regarded as one of the greatest and most consistent strikers of his generation. Wearing the number 7 jersey for most of his club and international career, he was capable of playing anywhere along the front line, although he was primarily deployed as a centre-forward, or as a supporting striker. Raúl was a quick, left-footed player, who was capable of scoring both in and outside the penalty area with his accurate and powerful shot. He possessed excellent ball control and technical ability, and was effective in the air as well as with his feet. Although primarily renowned for prolific goalscoring, Raúl was also a highly creative and hardworking player, capable of playing off of his teammates, creating chances and assisting goals, and was occasionally deployed as an attacking midfielder in his later career. In addition to these characteristics, Raúl is remembered for his leadership and discipline – throughout his extensive career, he never received a red card, and he was rarely booked. For his technical skills, elegance, goalscoring and performances, he was nicknamed "El Ferrari", by compatriot Fernando Hierro, another emblematic Real Madrid player.
Last edited by Cristiano_Naniano on Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:04 pm, edited 9 times in total.
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Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:31 pm |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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I compared with Konami's sets (from PES 2 to 2008 for both sets, and he had between 85-92) and well, about TW... Raúl always played very well with his teammates and didn't care who were the other players, I think It's a good point for him and for me he is one of the best strikers in that aspect for that (he played very well with Butragueño, Laudrup, Guti, an old Zidane, Ronaldo, Redondo, Zamorano, Amavisca, Hierro, Mijatovic, Suker, Roberto Carlos, Morientes, Higuaín even Cristiano Ronaldo...), players which have great TW and others who hasn't a high level there... Raúl had great understanding with all of them in the field, that means something, and well, maybe the second set is overrated  yes, I recognize that. But the first, I'm not sure. I rate the both sets between 84-86 For AGI, in first set when Raúl was in his prime every movement was quickly when he wasn't running... Of course the slowest Raúl was the older one, that's why had lot of points between two sets... About BB you're right, Raúl didn't change too much and I were confuse with him because he fight better the ball in his prime but he didn't change too much. About MENT, hard to rate it... Raúl always inspired his teammates to keep moving on, he always fight 'till the end of the match and didn't care if his team were loosing or winning. Didn't care about the fatigue and always running to push up his team to the victory. As TW for second set, maybe I overrated him, but I'm pretty sure he deserves high value there. Updated with your suggestions, but I prefer wait to see other opinions for TW and MENT before do anything with that
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Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:32 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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BTW.... i thinking about a 2005-2006 (in order to avoid you some other work  ) if you haven't done it yet But, i don't know when i will publish it ... My final year in secundary in  start in the next monday, so my activity in the forum will be less, and less Anyway, that set should posted in November-December 
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Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:41 pm |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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I didn't, I had it in my mind, but if you want... All yours And don't worry, studies go first mate 
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Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:43 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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So why Zidane 2006 has 80 in TMW? I really can't understand why Raul deserves better TMW than Zidane.
Also Trezeguet had always a great understanding with all the players he played with (Henry, Del Piero, Nedved, Ibrahimovic, Wiltord, Anelka, Camoranesi etc) and always scored lot of goals from their assists, the same like Inzaghi, who played with Shevchenko, Kakà, Totti, Del Piero, Pirlo, Seedorf etc). What's the difference?
I think that CF and SS like Raul deserve not more than 80-81 in TMW, because their job was to score and push in the net the ball they received from all the other players, not to do assist for them.
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Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:54 pm |
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Fussballgott1983
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:09 pm Posts: 130
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Yeah. I feel that player's ability can't be judged by their ability to play with many different kind of player, since by that logic, every quality old players deserved at least 90 TW  . Also, gameplay wisely, raul only deserved 82 TW max. He moves plenty, but so does strikers with similar values, and he had matches where he's quite static.
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Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:08 am |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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Updated 
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Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:06 pm |
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giomarino
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:57 pm Posts: 457 Location: Modena, Italy
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Quote: So why Zidane 2006 has 80 in TMW? I really can't understand why Raul deserves better TMW than Zidane.
Also Trezeguet had always a great understanding with all the players he played with This "understanding" shouldn't play any significant role when rating TMW, that and stupid stuff like leadership & captaincy are the reasons why most our players are heavily overrated in TMW and MEN... Actually jurgens made a good post about TMW: Quote: Teamwork relates to supportive off the ball movement. A player with high Teamwork (Xavi, for example) supports their teammates by moving around the field, making themselves available for potentional passes. Additionally, in the case of defenders, Teamwork effects a player's ability to work with his defensive teammates as a unit.
Teamwork is not, despite previous beliefs, at all related to how good of a playmaker a player is. I can agree with him, what I bolded should be the main factor when rating TMW...So all of you should reconsider your stats, MagicDip does good job in rating MEN and TMW so you should look on his work...
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Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:04 am |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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JeanMarc wrote:
This "understanding" shouldn't play any significant role when rating TMW
It's exactly what I was trying to say, and again I can't believe players like Zidane have 80 in TMW, compared to Xavi's, for example
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Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:27 pm |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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That's a good point, but also the understanding with their teammates should play as factor too, important or not it should be considered too... Anyway, I'll update lot of players (mine of course) and look other players too.
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Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:58 am |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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2004-2006 set: Name: Raúl González BlancoNickname: "The Lord of the Rings - "Mr. Champions" (never win as a captain, but we all know the history) Country: Spain Club: Real Madrid C.F. Position: *SS, CF, (SMF & AMF as Optional) Side: LF/BS Age: 27-29 years (27/06/1977)
Height: 180 cm Weight: 68 kgAttack: 89 Defence: 44 Balance: 78 Stamina: 81 Top Speed: 80 Acceleration: 84 Response: 90 Agility: 84 Dribble Accuracy: 85 Dribble Speed: 79 Short Pass Accuracy: 81 Short Pass Speed: 80 Long Pass Accuracy: 76 Long Pass Speed: 77 Shot Accuracy: 88 Shot Power: 81 Shot Technique: 91 Free Kick Accuracy: 72 Curling: 80 Header: 84 Jump: 83 Technique: 87 Aggression: 86 Mentality: 81 Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 78
Injury Tolerance: A (However he suffered a big injury in the 3-0 defeat against Barcelona) Condition: 7 Weak Foot Accuracy: 6 Weak Foot Frequency: 6 Consistency: 5 Growth type: Standard
CARDS: P13 - Goal Poacher S05 - 1-touch Play S06 - Outside curve S20 - Flicking Skills
SPECIAL ABILITIES: Positioning - Scoring - 1-on-1 Scoring - 1-touch Pass - Outside - Lines
Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack MindedExplanation: Kinda late, and also kinda rough since this set was based in a poor era for the "Merengues", when nearly everyone play bad in the team meaning the end of the so called "best club team ever formed" by Presi Pérez, The Galacticos; Even Owen coming from bench scored more than him. Yet, i had a suggestion for the passing values for the firsts both era; his passing (specially shorts) in first era could get more values; or the second one should had a lower value (although this one it's not 100% needed, it's more a point of view mine )
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Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:12 pm |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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Added your set to the first post 
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Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:04 pm |
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