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Zlatan IBRAHIMOVIĆ 2000-2016
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1932
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Stats by TheGreatRossoneroName: Zlatan IbrahimovićNickname: "Ibra" Country: Sweden Club: Malmo FK I Ajax FC Position: ★CF , SSSide: RB/BSAge: 18-21 years (03/10/1981) Era: 2000-2003Height: 195 cmWeight: 79kgAttack: 83Defence: 30Balance: 88Stamina: 81Top Speed: 85Acceleration: 86Response: 74Agility: 85Dribble Accuracy: 88Dribble Speed: 87Short Pass Accuracy: 75Short Pass Speed: 75Long Pass Accuracy: 74Long Pass Speed: 71Shot Accuracy: 75Shot Power: 85Shot Technique: 87Free Kick Accuracy: 73Curling: 75Header: 74Jump: 80Technique: 90Aggression: 89Mentality: 68Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 65Injury Tolerance: ACondition: 5Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 5Growth Type: Standard/LastingAttack/Defence Awareness: Attack-MindedFree Kick Style: 8CARDS:P03 - Trickster P04 - Darting Run P13 - Goal Poacher S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills S16 - Roulette Skills S17 - Flip Flap Skills S20 - Flicking Skills S21 - Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribbling - Post Player - Lines - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded***************************************************************************** Stats by Simcav Country: SwedenClub: Juventus F.C.Position: ★CF , SSSide: RF/BSAge: 23-25 years (03/10/1981) Era: 2004-2006Height: 195 cmWeight: 95 kgAttack: 86Defence: 36Balance: 95Stamina: 84Top Speed: 84Acceleration: 83Response: 83Agility: 83Dribble Accuracy: 93Dribble Speed: 84Short Pass Accuracy: 81Short Pass Speed: 76Long Pass Accuracy: 78Long Pass Speed: 74Shot Accuracy: 81Shot Power: 87Shot Technique: 93Free Kick Accuracy: 78Curling: 79Header: 81Jump: 82Technique: 95Aggression: 84Mentality: 77Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 79Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 7Growth type: Standard/LastingFree Kick Style: 8CARDS:P03 - Trickster P13 - Goal Poacher S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills S16 - Roulette Skills S17 - Flip Flap Skills S20 - Flicking Skills S21 - Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribbling - Post Player - Lines - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded*****************************************************************************  Country: SwedenClub: Inter MilanPosition: ★CF , SSSide: RF/BSAge: 25-28 years (03/10/1981) Era: 2006-2009Height: 195 cmWeight: 95 kgAttack: 90Defence: 37Balance: 96Stamina: 83Top Speed: 84Acceleration: 81Response: 84Agility: 85Dribble Accuracy: 94Dribble Speed: 83Short Pass Accuracy: 83Short Pass Speed: 79Long Pass Accuracy: 80Long Pass Speed: 76Shot Accuracy: 83Shot Power: 90Shot Technique: 96Free Kick Accuracy: 82Curling: 80Header: 83Jump: 80Technique: 96Aggression: 86Mentality: 79Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 81Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 8Growth type: Standard/LastingFree Kick Style: 8CARDS:P03 - Trickster P13 - Goal Poacher P21 - Fox In The Box S02 - Passer S04 - PK Taker S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills S16 - Roulette Skills S17 - Flip Flap Skills S20 - Flicking Skills S21 - Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribbling - Passer - Scoring - Post Player - Lines - Penalties - 1Touch Play - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded*****************************************************************************  Country: SwedenClub: FC Barcelona (2009-2010), AC Milan (2010-2012)Position: ★CF , SSSide: RF/BSAge: 28-31 years (03/10/1981) Era: 2009-2012Height: 195 cmWeight: 95 kgAttack: 92Defence: 36Balance: 96Stamina: 82Top Speed: 83Acceleration: 80Response: 85Agility: 83Dribble Accuracy: 94Dribble Speed: 82Short Pass Accuracy: 84Short Pass Speed: 80Long Pass Accuracy: 85Long Pass Speed: 78Shot Accuracy: 84Shot Power: 90Shot Technique: 96Free Kick Accuracy: 82Curling: 80Header: 81Jump: 78Technique: 96Aggression: 86Mentality: 77Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 84Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 7Growth type: Standard/LastingFree Kick Style: 8CARDS:P03 - Trickster P06 - Pinpoint Pass P21 - Fox In The Box S02 - Passer S04 - PK Taker S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills S16 - Roulette Skills S17 - Flip Flap Skills S20 - Flicking Skills S21 - Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribbling - Positioning - Playmaking - Passing - Scoring - Post Player - Penalties - 1Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded*****************************************************************************  Country: SwedenClub: PSGPosition: ★CF , SSSide: RF/BSAge: 31-35 years (03/10/1981) Era: 2012-2016Height: 195 cmWeight: 95 kgAttack: 94Defence: 26Balance: 96Stamina: 78Top Speed: 80Acceleration: 76Response: 76Agility: 77Dribble Accuracy: 92Dribble Speed: 76Short Pass Accuracy: 88Short Pass Speed: 82Long Pass Accuracy: 85Long Pass Speed: 78Shot Accuracy: 86Shot Power: 94Shot Technique: 98Free Kick Accuracy: 84Curling: 80Header: 77Jump: 78Technique: 96Aggression: 82Mentality: 78Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 74Injury Tolerance: CCondition: 5Weak Foot Accuracy: 7Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 5Growth type: Standard/LastingFree Kick Style: 8CARDS:P03 - Trickster S02 - Passer S04 - PK Taker S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills S16 - Roulette Skills S17 - Flip Flap Skills S20 - Flicking Skills S21 - Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribbling - Passing - Post Player - Penalties - 1Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack MindedINFO:1999-2001 Malmö FF 47 (18) 2001-2004 Ajax 110 (48) 2004-2006 Juventus 92 (26) 2006-2009 Inter 117 (66) 2009-2010 Barcelona 46 (22) 2010-2012 Milan 85 (56) 2012-2016 PSG 180 (156) NATIONAL TEAM:[Sweden U21] (2001...) 7 matches - 6 goals [Sweden] (2001-2016...) 116 matches - 62 goals PALMARES:Ajax: Eredivisie: 2001–02, 2003–04 KNVB Cup: 2001–02 Johan Cruijff Shield: 2002 Juventus: Serie A: 2004–05, 2005–06 (both revoked due to the Calciopoli scandal) Inter Milan: Serie A: 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09 Supercoppa Italiana: 2006, 2008 Barcelona: La Liga: 2009–10 Supercopa de España: 2009, 2010 UEFA Super Cup: 2009 FIFA Club World Cup: 2009 Milan: Serie A: 2010–11 Supercoppa Italiana: 2011 Paris Saint-Germain: Ligue 1: 2012–13, 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16 Coupe de France: 2014–15, 2015–16 Coupe de la Ligue: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16 Trophée des Champions: 2013, 2014, 2015
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Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:13 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 1894
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Any chance you do a fourth set for his time at Paris, Simcav? His performances there are even more impressive than at his other stages, he has clearly showed why he is at least second best Swedish striker of all time..
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Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:02 pm |
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27DONI72
Amministratore
Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:44 pm Posts: 769
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I'd wait the end of this season before create a PSG set 
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Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:45 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1932
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Yes mate, I'd also wait some months for the new set..
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Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:53 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 2764 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Added a Paris Saint Germain set..
BTW Cards and some S.A. are wrong, i'll update that in the next days in the next days..
EDIT: He shouldn't have Fox in The Box, neither Positioning, it isn't his style..
Also COND/CONS/TW/MEN/RES and STA are too high in the others sets, while Inter set can be increased to fit Barca season, and leave the 3rd set to be only an Milan set..
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Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:08 am |
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TheGreatRossonero
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:54 pm Posts: 1347 Location: Argentina
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Great stats but , you dont think that he needs in his PSG Era , 99 in ST he do the most insane goals in his career, also zlatan play diferent beetwen the seasons 2012-2014 (he looks more to milan) , and the 2014-2016(more slow and with not the same power that years before)
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Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:56 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 2764 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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TheGreatRossonero wrote: Great stats but , you dont think that he needs in his PSG Era , 99 in ST he do the most insane goals in his career, also zlatan play diferent beetwen the seasons 2012-2014 (he looks more to milan) , and the 2014-2016(more slow and with not the same power that years before) No, since MVB is "the only one" who deserve the highest value in ST.. And yes, that's what i think earlier, 2010-2012/2013 (Milan/PSG) and 2013-2016, leaving the Inter set to be an Inter-Barça set instead..
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Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:27 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 2764 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Some comments about the 2000-2003 Zlatan Ibrahimović set: El Capo wrote: I never saw him doing +85 AGI's stuff Anything to prove it? I am not criticizing your stats, but i'm really curious about that, since i've always saw him as too imposing, not very agile, not even in his Ajax years. TheGreatRossonero wrote: Yep maybe that he is tall , dont have impressed to be so much AGI , but i see footage of him im Malmo and when i see he looks very AGI, maybe the fact that was too skinny gives the effect of have that value, but i tell you he was AGI, he dribbled good , maybe you can help given other perspective , if you want some prove i left you the of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIELSA1ss6sAnd if you want look the documentary of the sweden tv of him and the documentary of the return of malmo to the allsvenskan (i dont have the links of the documentarys because are down right now ) El Capo wrote: The greatest egocentric ever TEC should be over 90 at any point of his career, he has always showed a clean nice touch for a man of his frame, same as his BB, he's a tank, you have to be a skilled defender to steal to ball from him, because physically is near impossible Trickster, Step On, Shoulder Feint, Flicking and Flip Flap skills is a must-to-have for Ibra In other hand, CONS could go down to 5 i guess, he always show this problem through his career, also affecting his perfomances in the "big games" and i don't TheGreatRossonero wrote: Maybe but for CONS but for that time he was a important key to get to 1st division again to Malmo and he was very good , Im TEC i don't know i see the videos but sometimes he does great controls and in others he lose the ball in the worst way , yeah i am okey to the add to the skills cards he do much of that , for his idolotrazisation to the phenomenon Ronaldo El Capo wrote: Well, yeah, he was a key member, but looking in general the level of the Swedish league, it doesn't tell me too much..CONS 5 is already a "regular" value for players overall in the strongest leagues..
What i'm looking for a rather low CONS value, is that he also wouldn't show the 100% of his abilities all the time (specially if you play ML, cup, league, BL mode), thus reducing the overall stats when the player start the game with a purple/blue arrow.. El Capo wrote: So: Trickster, Step On, Shoulder Feint, Flicking and Flip Flap Skills to his CARDS TEC: 90 (I was thinking on 92, but let's use a more conservative value) BB: 93 (seems self-explanatory) CONS: 5 (i recommend this, we know that he was important for Malmo's return to Swedish first division, but looking overall at the stats, and since how Ibra is, is accurate  ) Infact, none of his official sets should reflect more than 5 in CONS, he never was that consistent, because if he was, he would have been CL champion at least 3 times already  gurkenjoe93 wrote: BB 93? Konami rated him with 90 in PES 4 and Ibra even wrote in his book that he wasn't so strong until he went to Juve  Edit: Cantona for example has 91 in BB and I'm pretty sure he was stronger as young Zlatan.. TheGreatRossonero wrote: gurkenjoe93 wrote: BB 93? Konami rated him with 90 in PES 4 and Ibra even wrote in his book that he wasn't so strong until he went to Juve  Edit: Cantona for example has 91 in BB and I'm pretty sure he was stronger as young Zlatan.. i am with you ,zlatan dont look so strong i that time , in th videos that i see and i have i dont rated more than 87-89 in BB , in fact that level is great by the fact he play one season in 2nd Division , but like the swedish said with have zlatan so 88 is perfect BB , TEC i dont know 89 is very suitable , like i see all the young players have things to perfectional in he style of play games , his definition and control was very coarse. El Capo wrote: So:
Trickster, Step On, Shoulder Feint, Flicking and Flip Flap Skills to his CARDS Yeah added he was like a mini CR7 doint a mount of stepovers and rainbow flicks
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Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:39 am |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1932
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That's why I post my new (few) stats in the Stats Practice Area.
10 points of differents in RES between Milan set and PSG set? 10 points also in TMW, now that he really improved in this aspect? AGG 4 points less... I don't really know... 4 points above in SP?? 2 points above in ST? Why? 98 is way too much...
Probably my sets need to be reviewed, but this last set is too different from the others.
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:51 am |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 2764 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Mate, how do you rate TW? Or what's your definition of TW? It has a little (or nothing) to do with Playmaking/Playmaking issues, he doesn't "ask" for the ball, neither touch the ball so often, all comes from individualities from him, almost an statue if the comparison is fair.. RES is clearly , in both attack or defense, Ibrahimovic is slow/unresponsive and a lazy ass.. SP? Have you see Ibra's shots  nothing like 90, i can be honest you? I was holding back, but there is no way that Ibra's SP can't be retained on 90.. ST: It's just what makes him famous aside from his eggocentric behaviour..
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:33 am |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1932
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It's not due to your numbers, the problem is the difference between your set and mine. Or we review all the sets, or this has no meaning.
Anyway, I don't know why you link lazyness to RES, so probably almost every CF and SS should have no more than 80 in this term. IMO RES regards also the ability of finding the right coordination in a few seconds, the ability of moving quickly in the little space...
TMW... It's the same problem I have for Zidane. I just can't stand seeing Zidane 2006 with a TMW of 80. Personally, I have Zidane 2006 on 92-93, it's just about the interpretations. The same for Ibra, surely Milan TMW could go down some points, but not under a yellow value. And I think he improved in this aspect in the last years in PSG, at least FROM MY POINT OF VIEW.
I've seen Ibra playing from the moment he joined Juventus until he left Milan, probably with Milan it can up a point or two, but in the last set is way too high. The same for ST. He's not famous just for his bicycle kicks and stuff like that... there is a big difference between a single point when it is in the red value. And 98 is way too high. And so what about AGI? Aren't these values connected? He is 195x95, with an AGI of 77. He's like a wall, without moving skills, like Jan Koller. But so, why are there here 5 skill cards?
Personally, I'd like to compare Ibra to a similar player, from my point of view: Eric Cantona. His RES is 85, TMW 86. Are there more than 10 points of difference in these terms between these two players?
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:32 pm |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 629
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Ibra isn't better in PSG than Milan... Just has lower level defensors and he is lazy to do things as he did in other teams. In my opinion the points which should change after Milan's set are: SA -> His shots in PSG are more accurate (86 is enough for me) TW -> He plays for himself since he left the Serie A (but not less than 76) MENT -> In my opinion, this should be in white or lower greens, he never push up his teammates or something like that, even when the team is loosing... Never act like a leader (even for Sweden)  AGI and RES shouldn't be different than Milan's set. He is tall, and very agile for his height I was working on it but I didn't notice that he was posted and well, I never end the set  My notes (and I have to say, my notes are from 2012-2014): (always taking reference of Simcav because he did the original sets and his work with Ibra is pretty good):
Attack: 92 Defence: 30 Balance: 97 Stamina: 76 Top Speed: 79 Acceleration: 78 Response: 83 Agility: 82 Dribble Accuracy: 93 Dribble Speed: 78 Short Pass Accuracy: 87 Short Pass Speed: 83 Long Pass Accuracy: 85 Long Pass Speed: 78 Shot Accuracy: 85 Shot Power: 91 Shot Technique: 96 Free Kick Accuracy: 83 Curling: 80 Header: 77 Jump: 76 Technique: 95 Aggression: 84 Mentality: 75 Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 77 EDIT: I'm with Simcav about TW, but weird to rate, because when he signed for PSG he was awfull in this aspect, but in last 2 years is way better than he was at any point of his career... Also played some game as AMF if I'm not wrong the last season.
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:38 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 2764 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Well, Ibra isn't somebody very recognized in RES issues, i guess we can agree in this part..
TW is mainly the support that a player give while he isn't with the ball, making himself available for a pass, i can see the patern in the games with players like Xavi, Iniesta, Seedorf, Makelele, while for the defenders mainly works for the offside trap, that's how i see that ability....Players with "low" TW logically would do the opposite, either because they are lazy or because they don't have the skills to demand the ball so often (see Gattuso original set).. The skills cards, i guess it doesn't need too much explanation, that's another charateristic about him..
PD: It's not that he or me or anybody else are rate him wrong, it's because we have a different opinion on how each ability works..
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:48 pm |
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PiccoloInzaghi
Joined: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:56 pm Posts: 1787
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To clarify matters, the question of MENTALITY and TEAM WORK two very important features of PES will post what I found in Pes Editor about these two features:
MENTALITY: "Mentality indicates a player's commitment and drive. When is Stamina level is depleted, a player with a hight Mentality level will be much more likely to maintain his general level of dedication that a similary exhausted player whit low Mentality raiting.The overall impact of stamina loss on abilities is also reduced"
TEAM WORK: "One of the most complex player attributes, a player's Teamwork rating is a measure of how well he can interact with his teammates"
I hope it can help you.
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Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:59 pm |
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TheGreatRossonero
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:54 pm Posts: 1347 Location: Argentina
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgWxGpuR62A&t=1m6sHis Header doesn't get worst during his AC Milan's days, imo he could have 83 like Inter's set, also he doesn't need Roulette Skills, i don't remember him executing that skill back in 2010-2012 seasons. Probably he only deserve Passing.
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