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MagicDip
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:26 pm Posts: 2135
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Name: Gabriel Iván HeinzeNicknames: "Gabi" , "El Loco Rubio" , "El Gringo" Country: ArgentinaClub: Manchester UnitedPosition: ★CB , SBSide: LF/LSEra: 2005-2006Age: 26-28 years (19/04/1978) Height: 178 cmWeight: 72 kgAttack: 65Defence: 85Balance: 83Stamina: 85Top Speed: 78Acceleration: 77Response: 86Agility: 74Dribble Accuracy: 70Dribble Speed: 72Short Pass Accuracy: 75Short Pass Speed: 83Long Pass Accuracy: 83Long Pass Speed: 83Shot Accuracy: 68Shot Power: 85Shot Technique: 72Free Kick Accuracy: 78Curling: 78Header: 85Jump: 88Technique: 76Aggression: 68Mentality: 85Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 81Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 5Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 6Growth Type: StandardCARDS:S07 - Man Marking S08 - Slide Tackle S13 - Long Throw SPECIAL ABILITIES: Marking - Sliding - Long Throw Attack/Defence Awareness: Defence-Minded
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Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:42 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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There is a great difference in passing and shooting stats between the two sets..
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Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:51 pm |
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MagicDip
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:26 pm Posts: 2135
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Yes, and also in the other attributes, this set is more based on his World Cup performance (and on PES 5/PES 6 sets), I also saw him regularly playing in club on that time but I honestly don't recall how he was in Man U that much. If you have any changes to suggest go ahead.
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Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:21 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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I don't know what to suggest, but 10 points in AGI are too many.. like many other values..
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Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:02 pm |
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MagicDip
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:26 pm Posts: 2135
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Well, Heinze was never worth AGI 84, we just have to look at the way he moved even at his prime to see that. I don't remember the Konami value but I doubt it was in yellow...I'll post his Konami set for the comparison.
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Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:02 pm |
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DimonSpa
Joined: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:31 am Posts: 232 Location: Zhlobin, Belarus
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MagicDip wrote: Well, Heinze was never worth AGI 84, we just have to look at the way he moved even at his prime to see that. I don't remember the Konami value but I doubt it was in yellow...I'll post his Konami set for the comparison. in Konami stats his AGI max 80
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Thu Nov 20, 2014 6:57 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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Yeah, I didn't want to say that your stats is wrong, I only said that there are too many differences between the two sets.. but I didn't say if your values are too low nor that Charruan's are too high Personally, I'd lower Speed stats, AGI, dribbling stats a bit, MEN and TMW in Charruan's set..
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Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:28 pm |
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MagicDip
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:26 pm Posts: 2135
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Simcav wrote: Yeah, I didn't want to say that your stats is wrong, I only said that there are too many differences between the two sets.. but I didn't say if your values are too low nor that Charruan's are too high Don't worry, I didn't take it that way. That been said there are probably some things perfectible in the set I've posted. Concerning Charruan's set, I let you judge it as I don't remember him much in the early 00's.
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Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:34 pm |
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27DONI72
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Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:44 pm Posts: 1006
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Also in Ayala thread there are a lot of differences between your sets and Charruan one.
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:07 am |
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MagicDip
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:26 pm Posts: 2135
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In which attributes? Because I don't see much difference in the 97-98 and Charruan's set, I took konami's set for a start and I think Charruan did the same.
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:57 am |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Simcav wrote: Yeah, I didn't want to say that your stats is wrong, I only said that there are too many differences between the two sets.. but I didn't say if your values are too low nor that Charruan's are too high Personally, I'd lower Speed stats, AGI, dribbling stats a bit, MEN and TMW in Charruan's set.. Updated, the old set: Name: Gabriel Iván Heinze Country: Argentina Club: Paris Saint-Germain (2001-2004) | Manchester United (2004-2007) Position: *SB, CB, SWP Side: LF/LS Age: 24-27 years (19/04/1978)
Height: 178 cm Weight: 72 kg
Attack: 68 Defence: 80 Balance: 85 Stamina: 86 Top Speed: 81 Acceleration: 83 Response: 84 Agility: 84 Dribble Accuracy: 76 Dribble Speed: 78 Short Pass Accuracy: 76 Short Pass Speed: 79 Long Pass Accuracy: 78 Long Pass Speed: 80 Shot Accuracy: 67 Shot Power: 82 Shot Technique: 69 Free Kick Accuracy: 71 Curling: 77 Header: 85 Jump: 86 Technique: 77 Aggression: 72 Mentality: 88 Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 85
Injury Tolerance: B Condition: 7 Weak Foot Accuracy: 5 Weak Foot Frequency: 5 Consistency: 6 Growth type: Standard
CARDS: S08 - Slide Tackle S09 - Covering S13 - Long Throw P04 - Darting Run
SPECIAL ABILITIES: Sliding - Covering - Long throw - Side
Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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JUM can be on 88 for sure in the second set.
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:15 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2548
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El Capo wrote: JUM can be on 88 for sure in the second set. Why not also for first set?
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:10 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Cuz i remenber him on 2006 actually  and there i see him with higher JUM; the other set, don't know, it shouldn't be a problem if we change or not his JUM there too.
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:06 pm |
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