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 SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986 
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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nickname: "Doutor"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Corinthians
Position: AMF , CMF , SS , CF
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1978-1982
Age: 23-28 years (19/02/1954)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 87
Defence: 60
Balance: 82
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 77
Response: 76
Agility: 75
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 85
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 81
Shot Accuracy: 83
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 84
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 82
Header: 81
Jump: 75
Technique: 93
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P18 - Talisman
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Reaction - Playmaking - Passing - Penalties - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nickname: "Doutor"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Clubs: Fiorentina | Flamengo
Position: AMF
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1984-1986
Age: 31-33 years (19/02/1954)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 85
Defence: 40
Balance: 82
Stamina: 70
Top Speed: 74
Acceleration: 76
Response: 75
Agility: 73
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 68
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 87
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 81
Shot Accuracy: 82
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 81
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 82
Header: 80
Jump: 73
Technique: 92
Aggression: 77
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 82

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 3
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 4
Growth Type: Standard

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Playmaking - Passing - Penalties - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


INFOS:

One of the most elegant midfield generals in soccer history, Socrates, began his career in Botafogo. He was never a teenage star and didn’t make his debut in the Brazilian national team until he was 25. He was blessed with wonderful skills, vision and seemed to have so many options when he was on the ball. He was able to play the ball wherever and whenever he wanted. His heel-kicks became famous world wide. These rare skills combined with the fact that he was a medical student more than justified him being nicknamed “the doctor”. Socrates captained Brazil’s fantastic World Cup team of 1982 partnering Cerezo, Falcao and Zico in midfield. He scored twice in that tournament, one of them being a marvellous goal against the Soviet Union when he dribbled past two players before firing it home from long range. Brazil didn’t reach the semifinals in that tournament, but played some wonderful soccer.

Socrates was not an ordinary athlete, infact he didn’t look at himself as an athlete. He smoked a pack of sigarettes every day, and that was one of the reasons to why he never settled in Italy when he arrived there in 1984 to play for Fiorentina. The lifestyle didn’t suit him and he went back to Brazil a year later.

In 1986, Socrates again was instrumental for Brazil in their attempt of winning the World Cup, but France and Platini won on penalties in the quarterfinal after a wonderful match. Socrates missed one of the penalties in the shoot-out. He was the only player of the survivors of the 1982 team who really reached the same level, but it wasn’t enough to take them through. He scored more than a goal every third game in average for Brazil, which is excellent for a midfielder and added two more to his account in the Mexico World Cup.

At clublevel he played most of his career for Botafogo and Corinthians for whom he won three Sao Paulo state championships. Socrates also played for Flamengo winning a Rio state championship before ending his career in 1990 playing for Santos.


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Added second set in the first post.


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Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:20 am
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General update on the second set.

The previous one:
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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira

Nickname: "Doutor"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Fiorentina (1984-1986)
Position: *AMF , SMF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 33 years (19/02/1954)
Era: 1984-1986

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 85
Defence: 40
Balance: 83
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 79
Acceleration: 78
Response: 75
Agility: 81
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 83
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 86
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 85
Header: 80
Jump: 74
Technique: 95
Aggression: 83
Mentality: 78
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 92

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 4/5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P11 - Long Ranger
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Middle Shooting - Penalties - Outside

Attack / Defence Awareness Card: Attack-Minded


Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:21 am
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I don't think that he deserve 87 in RES in 1st set while in 2nd set he drastically go down to 75, i mean, he was the typical AMF From that time in terms of quick reactions or something like that, i'd rather put him in 81-77...


Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:46 am
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It's not that his RES drastically go down from one set to another, it's rather the 2 sets don't follow the same standards.
At any point of his career, Socrates deserved a so high value in RES, I won't debate on giving high RES to players when it's not necessary as I already did it several times in the past. All I can say is that like this he'll be more agressive than Nigel De Jong in the game :lol:
Konami gives him 82 in PES 2011 and 76 in PES 2012/2013, the truth is somewhere between these values for the time when he was at his peak.

EDIT: I use this set below for his peak.

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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nickname: "Doutor"
Number: 8
Club: Corinthians
Position: AMF , SS , CF
Nationality: Brazilian
Era: 1978-1984
Age: 24-30 years (19/02/1954)

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 88
Defence: 48
Balance: 83
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 78
Response: 78
Agility: 77
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 85
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 83
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 81
Header: 83
Jump: 75
Technique: 95
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 7

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Tactical Dribble
Reaction
Playmaking
Passing
Middle Shooting
Penalties
Outside

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P11 - Long Ranger
P18 - Talisman
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2
Growth Type: Standard
Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:47 am
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I think your peak set can be applied here instead of the original. It suited him more. ;)
Also, maybe the second set's balance could be lowered. I don't think he's still as strong as before since he never take care of his body, and it's clear that his fitness level is already low before.
And the title need to be changed to 1979-1986.


Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:23 pm
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If other members agree I give first post to MagicDip so he can update it.


Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:51 pm
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I think that choice should be the best... Charrúan doesn't connect too much, and this kind of players which were great and famous... I think MagicDip could update this thread ;)


Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:56 pm
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Agree.


Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:29 pm
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Yes, i also agree with the set made by MagicDip


Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:32 pm
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Added the 1978-1984 set in the first post.

The previous set by Charruan & Kizaru:
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STATS BY CHARRÚAN & KIZARU

Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira

Nickname: "Doctor" | "Golden Heel"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Corinthians
Position: *AMF, CMF, SMF, SS, (CF as optional)
Side: RF/RS
Age: 25-29 years (19/02/1954)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 86
Defence: 40
Balance: 85
Stamina: 80
Top Speed: 81
Acceleration: 79
Response: 87
Agility: 79
Dribble Accuracy: 92
Dribble Speed: 78
Short Pass Accuracy: 96
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 88
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 85
Shot Power: 87
Shot Technique: 86
Free Kick Accuracy: 85
Curling: 87
Header: 83
Jump: 78
Technique: 96
Aggression: 83
Mentality: 78
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 90

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

CARDS:
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-touch Play
S06 - Outside curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills
S21 - Step On Skills
P01 - Classic NO.10
P03 - Trickster
P07 - Early Cross
P11 - Long Ranger

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribbling - Playmaking - Passing - Middle Shooting - Penalties - 1 Touch Pass - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


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Injury tolerance haves to be C because he several injuries of back and knee.
He said that he dont play the same after that

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Updated the Sets.

The older Sets:

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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nickname: "Doutor"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Corinthians
Position: AMF , SS , CF
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1978-1984
Age: 24-30 years (19/02/1954)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 88
Defence: 48
Balance: 83
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 78
Response: 78
Agility: 77
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 85
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 83
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 81
Header: 83
Jump: 75
Technique: 95
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 7
Growth Type: Standard

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P11 - Long Ranger
P18 - Talisman
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Reaction - Playmaking - Passing - Middle Shooting - Penalties - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nickname: "Doutor"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Clubs: Fiorentina | Flamengo
Position: AMF
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1984-1986
Age: 31-33 years (19/02/1954)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 85
Defence: 40
Balance: 83
Stamina: 70
Top Speed: 78
Acceleration: 77
Response: 75
Agility: 74
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 83
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 81
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 81
Header: 80
Jump: 74
Technique: 95
Aggression: 81
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 84

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 4 | 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P11 - Long Ranger
P18 - Talisman
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Middle Shooting - Penalties - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


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i dont think he payed at the same level at flamengo after his back surgery he wanst the same :(

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