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Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986 |
Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira Nickname: "Doutor" Country: Brazil Club: Corinthians Position: ★AMF , CMF , SS , CF Side: RF/BS Era: 1978-1982 Age: 23-28 years (19/02/1954) Height: 192 cm Weight: 79 kg Attack: 87 Defence: 60 Balance: 82 Stamina: 75 Top Speed: 83 Acceleration: 77 Response: 76 Agility: 75 Dribble Accuracy: 93 Dribble Speed: 77 Short Pass Accuracy: 95 Short Pass Speed: 85 Long Pass Accuracy: 91 Long Pass Speed: 81 Shot Accuracy: 82 Shot Power: 92 Shot Technique: 84 Free Kick Accuracy: 83 Curling: 82 Header: 80 Jump: 75 Technique: 93 Aggression: 85 Mentality: 90 Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 88 Injury Tolerance: B Condition: 4 Weak Foot Accuracy: 8 Weak Foot Frequency: 7 Consistency: 6 Growth Type: Standard Dribble Style: 3 Free Kick Style: 2 Penalty Kick Style: 2 CARDS: P01 - Classic N°10 P18 - Talisman S01 - Marauding S02 - Passer S04 - PK Taker S06 - Outside Curve SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Reaction - Playmaking - Passing - Penalties - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira Nickname: "Doutor" Country: Brazil Clubs: Fiorentina | Flamengo Position: ★AMF Side: RF/BS Era: 1984-1986 Age: 31-33 years (19/02/1954) Height: 192 cm Weight: 79 kg Attack: 85 Defence: 40 Balance: 82 Stamina: 70 Top Speed: 74 Acceleration: 76 Response: 75 Agility: 73 Dribble Accuracy: 93 Dribble Speed: 68 Short Pass Accuracy: 95 Short Pass Speed: 87 Long Pass Accuracy: 91 Long Pass Speed: 81 Shot Accuracy: 82 Shot Power: 92 Shot Technique: 81 Free Kick Accuracy: 83 Curling: 82 Header: 80 Jump: 73 Technique: 92 Aggression: 77 Mentality: 90 Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 87 Injury Tolerance: B Condition: 3 Weak Foot Accuracy: 8 Weak Foot Frequency: 7 Consistency: 4 Growth Type: Standard Dribble Style: 3 Free Kick Style: 2 Penalty Kick Style: 2 CARDS: P01 - Classic N°10 S02 - Passer S04 - PK Taker S06 - Outside Curve SPECIAL ABILITIES: Playmaking - Passing - Penalties - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded INFOS: One of the most elegant midfield generals in soccer history, Socrates, began his career in Botafogo. He was never a teenage star and didn’t make his debut in the Brazilian national team until he was 25. He was blessed with wonderful skills, vision and seemed to have so many options when he was on the ball. He was able to play the ball wherever and whenever he wanted. His heel-kicks became famous world wide. These rare skills combined with the fact that he was a medical student more than justified him being nicknamed “the doctor”. Socrates captained Brazil’s fantastic World Cup team of 1982 partnering Cerezo, Falcao and Zico in midfield. He scored twice in that tournament, one of them being a marvellous goal against the Soviet Union when he dribbled past two players before firing it home from long range. Brazil didn’t reach the semifinals in that tournament, but played some wonderful soccer. Socrates was not an ordinary athlete, infact he didn’t look at himself as an athlete. He smoked a pack of sigarettes every day, and that was one of the reasons to why he never settled in Italy when he arrived there in 1984 to play for Fiorentina. The lifestyle didn’t suit him and he went back to Brazil a year later. In 1986, Socrates again was instrumental for Brazil in their attempt of winning the World Cup, but France and Platini won on penalties in the quarterfinal after a wonderful match. Socrates missed one of the penalties in the shoot-out. He was the only player of the survivors of the 1982 team who really reached the same level, but it wasn’t enough to take them through. He scored more than a goal every third game in average for Brazil, which is excellent for a midfielder and added two more to his account in the Mexico World Cup. At clublevel he played most of his career for Botafogo and Corinthians for whom he won three Sao Paulo state championships. Socrates also played for Flamengo winning a Rio state championship before ending his career in 1990 playing for Santos. |
Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:20 am ] |
Post subject: | SÓCRATES 1984-1986 |
Added second set in the first post. |
Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
General update on the second set. The previous one: Spoiler: show |
Author: | El Capo [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:46 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
I don't think that he deserve 87 in RES in 1st set while in 2nd set he drastically go down to 75, i mean, he was the typical AMF From that time in terms of quick reactions or something like that, i'd rather put him in 81-77... |
Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
It's not that his RES drastically go down from one set to another, it's rather the 2 sets don't follow the same standards. At any point of his career, Socrates deserved a so high value in RES, I won't debate on giving high RES to players when it's not necessary as I already did it several times in the past. All I can say is that like this he'll be more agressive than Nigel De Jong in the game Konami gives him 82 in PES 2011 and 76 in PES 2012/2013, the truth is somewhere between these values for the time when he was at his peak. EDIT: I use this set below for his peak. Spoiler: show |
Author: | Fussballgott1983 [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
I think your peak set can be applied here instead of the original. It suited him more. Also, maybe the second set's balance could be lowered. I don't think he's still as strong as before since he never take care of his body, and it's clear that his fitness level is already low before. And the title need to be changed to 1979-1986. |
Author: | 27DONI72 [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
If other members agree I give first post to MagicDip so he can update it. |
Author: | Cristiano_Naniano [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
I think that choice should be the best... Charrúan doesn't connect too much, and this kind of players which were great and famous... I think MagicDip could update this thread |
Author: | Fussballgott1983 [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:29 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
Agree. |
Author: | El Capo [ Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
Yes, i also agree with the set made by MagicDip |
Author: | MagicDip [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:43 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986 |
Added the 1978-1984 set in the first post. The previous set by Charruan & Kizaru: Spoiler: show |
Author: | MagicDip [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1984 & 1984-1986 |
Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1984 & 1984-1986 |
Injury tolerance haves to be C because he several injuries of back and knee. He said that he dont play the same after that |
Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986 |
Updated the Sets. The older Sets: Spoiler: show |
Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:14 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986 |
i dont think he payed at the same level at flamengo after his back surgery he wanst the same |
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