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SÓCRATES 1978-1982 | 1984-1986
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Author:  MagicDip [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:33 pm ]
Post subject:  SÓCRATES 1978-1982 | 1984-1986
Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nicknames: "Doutor" , "Calcanhar de Ouro" , "Magrão"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Corinthians
Position: ★AMF , CMF , SS , CF
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1978-1982
Age: 23-28 years (19/02/1954 - † 04/12/2011)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 87
Defence: 60
Balance: 82
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 77
Response: 76
Agility: 75
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 87
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 81
Shot Accuracy: 82
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 84
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 82
Header: 80
Jump: 75
Technique: 93
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P18 - Talisman
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Reaction - Playmaking - Passing - Penalties - Outside

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2 | 8
Penalty Kick Style: 2

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nicknames: "Doutor" , "Calcanhar de Ouro" , "Magrão"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Clubs: Fiorentina | CR Flamengo
Position: ★AMF , CMF
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1984-1986
Age: 31-33 years (19/02/1954 - † 04/12/2011)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 86
Defence: 60
Balance: 82
Stamina: 70
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 76
Response: 75
Agility: 73
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 74
Short Pass Accuracy: 93
Short Pass Speed: 84
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 82
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 76
Free Kick Accuracy: 78
Curling: 82
Header: 78
Jump: 73
Technique: 90
Aggression: 77
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 3
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 4
Growth Type: Standard

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-Touch Play
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Playmaking - Passing - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2 | 8
Penalty Kick Style: 2

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded
Author:  MagicDip [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  SÓCRATES 1984-1986
Added second set in the first post.
Author:  MagicDip [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983
General update on the second set.

The previous one:
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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira

Nickname: "Doutor"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Fiorentina (1984-1986)
Position: *AMF , SMF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 33 years (19/02/1954)
Era: 1984-1986

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 85
Defence: 40
Balance: 83
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 79
Acceleration: 78
Response: 75
Agility: 81
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 83
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 86
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 85
Header: 80
Jump: 74
Technique: 95
Aggression: 83
Mentality: 78
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 92

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 4/5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P11 - Long Ranger
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Middle Shooting - Penalties - Outside

Attack / Defence Awareness Card: Attack-Minded
Author:  El Capo [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983
I don't think that he deserve 87 in RES in 1st set while in 2nd set he drastically go down to 75, i mean, he was the typical AMF From that time in terms of quick reactions or something like that, i'd rather put him in 81-77...
Author:  MagicDip [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983
It's not that his RES drastically go down from one set to another, it's rather the 2 sets don't follow the same standards.
At any point of his career, Socrates deserved a so high value in RES, I won't debate on giving high RES to players when it's not necessary as I already did it several times in the past. All I can say is that like this he'll be more agressive than Nigel De Jong in the game :lol:
Konami gives him 82 in PES 2011 and 76 in PES 2012/2013, the truth is somewhere between these values for the time when he was at his peak.

EDIT: I use this set below for his peak.

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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nickname: "Doutor"
Number: 8
Club: Corinthians
Position: ★AMF , SS , CF
Nationality: Brazilian
Era: 1978-1984
Age: 24-30 years (19/02/1954)

Injury Tolerance: B
Foot: R
Side: B

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 88
Defence: 48
Balance: 83
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 78
Response: 78
Agility: 77
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 85
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 83
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 81
Header: 83
Jump: 75
Technique: 95
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 7

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
★Tactical Dribble
★Reaction
★Playmaking
★Passing
★Middle Shooting
★Penalties
★Outside

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P11 - Long Ranger
P18 - Talisman
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2
Growth Type: Standard
Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded
Author:  Fussballgott1983 [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983
I think your peak set can be applied here instead of the original. It suited him more. ;)
Also, maybe the second set's balance could be lowered. I don't think he's still as strong as before since he never take care of his body, and it's clear that his fitness level is already low before.
And the title need to be changed to 1979-1986.
Author:  27DONI72 [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983
If other members agree I give first post to MagicDip so he can update it.
Author:  Cristiano_Naniano [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983
I think that choice should be the best... Charrúan doesn't connect too much, and this kind of players which were great and famous... I think MagicDip could update this thread ;)
Author:  Fussballgott1983 [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983
Agree.
Author:  El Capo [ Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983
Yes, i also agree with the set made by MagicDip
Author:  MagicDip [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986
Added the 1978-1984 set in the first post.

The previous set by Charruan & Kizaru:
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STATS BY CHARRÚAN & KIZARU

Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira

Nickname: "Doctor" | "Golden Heel"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Corinthians
Position: *AMF, CMF, SMF, SS, (CF as optional)
Side: RF/RS
Age: 25-29 years (19/02/1954)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 86
Defence: 40
Balance: 85
Stamina: 80
Top Speed: 81
Acceleration: 79
Response: 87
Agility: 79
Dribble Accuracy: 92
Dribble Speed: 78
Short Pass Accuracy: 96
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 88
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 85
Shot Power: 87
Shot Technique: 86
Free Kick Accuracy: 85
Curling: 87
Header: 83
Jump: 78
Technique: 96
Aggression: 83
Mentality: 78
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 90

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

CARDS:
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-touch Play
S06 - Outside curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills
S21 - Step On Skills
P01 - Classic NO.10
P03 - Trickster
P07 - Early Cross
P11 - Long Ranger

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribbling - Playmaking - Passing - Middle Shooting - Penalties - 1 Touch Pass - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded
Author:  MagicDip [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1984 & 1984-1986
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Author:  TheGreatRossonero [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1984 & 1984-1986
Injury tolerance haves to be C because he several injuries of back and knee.
He said that he dont play the same after that
Author:  MagicDip [ Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986
Updated the Sets.

The older Sets:

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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nickname: "Doutor"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Club: Corinthians
Position: ★AMF , SS , CF
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1978-1984
Age: 24-30 years (19/02/1954)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 88
Defence: 48
Balance: 83
Stamina: 75
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 78
Response: 78
Agility: 77
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 85
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 83
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 81
Header: 83
Jump: 75
Technique: 95
Aggression: 85
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 88

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 7
Growth Type: Standard

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P11 - Long Ranger
P18 - Talisman
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Reaction - Playmaking - Passing - Middle Shooting - Penalties - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded


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Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira
Nickname: "Doutor"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil
Clubs: Fiorentina | Flamengo
Position: ★AMF
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1984-1986
Age: 31-33 years (19/02/1954)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 79 kg

Attack: 85
Defence: 40
Balance: 83
Stamina: 70
Top Speed: 78
Acceleration: 77
Response: 75
Agility: 74
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 95
Short Pass Speed: 90
Long Pass Accuracy: 91
Long Pass Speed: 87
Shot Accuracy: 83
Shot Power: 92
Shot Technique: 81
Free Kick Accuracy: 83
Curling: 81
Header: 80
Jump: 74
Technique: 95
Aggression: 81
Mentality: 90
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 84

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 4 | 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 8
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

Dribble Style: 3
Free Kick Style: 2
Penalty Kick Style: 2

CARDS:
P01 - Classic N°10
P11 - Long Ranger
P18 - Talisman
S02 - Passer
S04 - PK Taker
S06 - Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Middle Shooting - Penalties - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded
Author:  TheGreatRossonero [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986
i dont think he payed at the same level at flamengo after his back surgery he wanst the same :(
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