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| Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | SÓCRATES 1978-1982 | 1984-1986 |
Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira Nicknames: "Doutor" , "Calcanhar de Ouro" , "Magrão" ![]() Country: BrazilClub: Corinthians Position: ★AMF , CMF , SS , CF Side: RF/BS Era: 1978-1982 Age: 23-28 years (19/02/1954 - † 04/12/2011) Height: 192 cm Weight: 79 kg Attack: 87 Defence: 60 Balance: 82 Stamina: 75 Top Speed: 83 Acceleration: 77 Response: 76 Agility: 75 Dribble Accuracy: 93 Dribble Speed: 77 Short Pass Accuracy: 95 Short Pass Speed: 87 Long Pass Accuracy: 91 Long Pass Speed: 81 Shot Accuracy: 82 Shot Power: 92 Shot Technique: 84 Free Kick Accuracy: 83 Curling: 82 Header: 80 Jump: 75 Technique: 93 Aggression: 85 Mentality: 90 Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 88 Injury Tolerance: B Condition: 4 Weak Foot Accuracy: 8 Weak Foot Frequency: 7 Consistency: 6 Growth Type: Standard CARDS: P01 - Classic N°10 P18 - Talisman S01 - Marauding S02 - Passer S04 - PK Taker S06 - Outside Curve SPECIAL ABILITIES: Reaction - Playmaking - Passing - Penalties - Outside Dribble Style: 3 Free Kick Style: 2 | 8 Penalty Kick Style: 2 Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Name: Sócrates Brasileiro Sampaio de Souza Vieira de Oliveira Nicknames: "Doutor" , "Calcanhar de Ouro" , "Magrão" ![]() Country: BrazilClubs: Fiorentina | CR Flamengo Position: ★AMF , CMF Side: RF/BS Era: 1984-1986 Age: 31-33 years (19/02/1954 - † 04/12/2011) Height: 192 cm Weight: 79 kg Attack: 86 Defence: 60 Balance: 82 Stamina: 70 Top Speed: 83 Acceleration: 76 Response: 75 Agility: 73 Dribble Accuracy: 93 Dribble Speed: 74 Short Pass Accuracy: 93 Short Pass Speed: 84 Long Pass Accuracy: 91 Long Pass Speed: 77 Shot Accuracy: 82 Shot Power: 92 Shot Technique: 76 Free Kick Accuracy: 78 Curling: 82 Header: 78 Jump: 73 Technique: 90 Aggression: 77 Mentality: 90 Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 88 Injury Tolerance: B Condition: 3 Weak Foot Accuracy: 8 Weak Foot Frequency: 7 Consistency: 4 Growth Type: Standard CARDS: P01 - Classic N°10 S02 - Passer S04 - PK Taker S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve SPECIAL ABILITIES: Playmaking - Passing - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Dribble Style: 3 Free Kick Style: 2 | 8 Penalty Kick Style: 2 Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded |
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| Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | SÓCRATES 1984-1986 |
Added second set in the first post. |
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| Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
General update on the second set. The previous one: Spoiler: show |
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| Author: | El Capo [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
I don't think that he deserve 87 in RES in 1st set while in 2nd set he drastically go down to 75, i mean, he was the typical AMF From that time in terms of quick reactions or something like that, i'd rather put him in 81-77... |
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| Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
It's not that his RES drastically go down from one set to another, it's rather the 2 sets don't follow the same standards. At any point of his career, Socrates deserved a so high value in RES, I won't debate on giving high RES to players when it's not necessary as I already did it several times in the past. All I can say is that like this he'll be more agressive than Nigel De Jong in the game Konami gives him 82 in PES 2011 and 76 in PES 2012/2013, the truth is somewhere between these values for the time when he was at his peak. EDIT: I use this set below for his peak. Spoiler: show |
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| Author: | Fussballgott1983 [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
I think your peak set can be applied here instead of the original. It suited him more. Also, maybe the second set's balance could be lowered. I don't think he's still as strong as before since he never take care of his body, and it's clear that his fitness level is already low before. And the title need to be changed to 1979-1986. |
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| Author: | 27DONI72 [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
If other members agree I give first post to MagicDip so he can update it. |
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| Author: | Cristiano_Naniano [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
I think that choice should be the best... Charrúan doesn't connect too much, and this kind of players which were great and famous... I think MagicDip could update this thread |
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| Author: | Fussballgott1983 [ Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
Agree. |
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| Author: | El Capo [ Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1979-1983 |
Yes, i also agree with the set made by MagicDip |
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| Author: | MagicDip [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986 |
Added the 1978-1984 set in the first post. The previous set by Charruan & Kizaru: Spoiler: show |
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| Author: | MagicDip [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1984 & 1984-1986 |
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| Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1984 & 1984-1986 |
Injury tolerance haves to be C because he several injuries of back and knee. He said that he dont play the same after that |
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| Author: | MagicDip [ Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986 |
Updated the Sets. The older Sets: Spoiler: show |
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| Author: | TheGreatRossonero [ Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: SÓCRATES 1978-1982 & 1984-1986 |
i dont think he payed at the same level at flamengo after his back surgery he wanst the same |
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