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 Jorge OLGUÍN 1976-1982 & 1984-1985 
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Name: Jorge Mario Olguín

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Country: :ARG: Argentina
Clubs: San Lorenzo (1971–1979)
Position: *SB, CB, CWP
Side: RF/RS
Era: 1976-1982
Age: 24-30 years (17/05/1952)

Height: 175 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Attack: 74
Defence: 79
Balance: 81
Stamina: 85
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 81
Response: 81
Agility: 77
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Dribble Speed: 79
Short Pass Accuracy: 78
Short Pass Speed: 77
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 70
Shot Power: 81
Shot Technique: 71
Free Kick Accuracy: 73
Curling: 78
Header: 77
Jump: 82
Technique: 80
Aggression: 77
Mentality/Tenacity: 83
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 85

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 6
Growth Type: Standard


CARDS:
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Side - Covering

Attack / Defence Awareness Card: Defence Minded

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Name: Jorge Mario Olguín

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Country: :ARG: Argentina
Club: Argentinos Juniors
Position: CB , SWP
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1984-1985
Age: 31-33 years (17/05/1952)

Height: 176 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Attack: 68
Defence: 83
Balance: 81
Stamina: 81
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 76
Response: 80
Agility: 77
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 80
Short Pass Speed: 74
Long Pass Accuracy: 84
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 68
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 68
Free Kick Accuracy: 75
Curling: 78
Header: 77
Jump: 80
Technique: 80
Aggression: 70
Mentality: 80
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 84

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

CARDS:
P16 - Extra Attacker
S04 - PK Taker
S07 - Man Marking

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Penalties - Marking

Attack/Defence Awareness: Defence-Minded


Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:32 pm
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You can delete the second set, I'll post another updated one in the future for that era.
Btw, Tarantini and him should have their RES lowered, after what has been discussed concerning response and side backs.


Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:45 pm
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Deleted.

Write the numbers for Olguin and Tarantini and I'll update them..

Also it'd be better if you can write suggestions for Tarantini in his own thread...

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Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:10 pm
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The values that really needs an update should be BB, speed (He wasn't simply so fast), AGI (kinda "slow" and relaxed in his moves) and RES.
Darting Run and Cut Back Pass should be removed from the cards, it's true he joined the attack but not systematically like this card would make him do (his AGG value is actually enough for that), and about the passes, they were crosses mostly not grounded cut back pass, I haven't seen that in his game.

About these SA/Cards matter, generally speaking I'd say we are too generous in it, giving a lot of cards here and there in the sets, it should be given when a player does very often what the SA/Card represent ingame and not because he has showed it once or once in a while, giving too much cards overpowers the sets, especially when you play against the CPU.

PS: You can delete the set in the spoiler after the update.


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Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:52 am
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Updated, one set is enough here since the early set was overrated...

I don't agree with you regarding his speed, I remember he had good pace...

As for cards/s.a., I rarely pay attention to it, IMO it doesn't have absolutely any affect on the game, Konami should remove it...

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Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:57 pm
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About the cards, believe me it works especially when the CPU plays against you lol It kinda dopes the stats that are related with the cards (same effect than the arrows), it's very annoying. I have tested to play with and without the cards and without touching the stats,the players don't behave in the same way.


Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:13 pm
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As far as my opinion can count little, from avid player of PES, I can say that the card Act and not just in gameplay.


Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:22 am
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Back to this, I've been using him with a green value in ATT but the more I watch him and the more I think his ATT should be in white, especially when compared to other side backs, don't know if anybody else has an opinion about it...


Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:30 pm
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Write which number :?: Maybe 73 :?:

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Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:41 am
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Yes something around 72/73, he wasn't particularly a threat nor skilled in attack, used to overlap from time to time to end by a cross or cut in the midfield but that was all. We also have to take in account that he always played as a center back in his clubs (San Lorenzo by the time) and was used as a side back only by Menotti who dropped out Vicente Pernia for his temper and couldn't find someone else to fill the position as a starter (there are NT games where Olguin plays as a CB).
Thus when one compare his offensive performances to Tarantini on the other side for example, the latter was much more intelligent overall and used to support and create danger on side coming from the back. Anyway don't touch it for now, I'll come back to this later with a better idea on the number to assign.


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Update to make in the first set: ATT: 75=>74.

Second set to add in the first post:

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Name: Jorge Mario Olguín

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Country: :ARG: Argentina
Club: Argentinos Juniors
Position: CB , SWP
Side: RF/BS
Era: 1984-1985
Age: 31-33 years (17/05/1952)

Height: 176 cm
Weight: 70 kg

Attack: 68
Defence: 83
Balance: 81
Stamina: 81
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 76
Response: 81
Agility: 77
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Dribble Speed: 77
Short Pass Accuracy: 80
Short Pass Speed: 74
Long Pass Accuracy: 84
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 68
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 68
Free Kick Accuracy: 75
Curling: 78
Header: 77
Jump: 80
Technique: 81
Aggression: 72
Mentality: 83
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Teamwork: 84

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

CARDS:
P16 - Extra Attacker
S04 - PK Taker
S07 - Man Marking

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Penalties - Marking

Attack/Defence Awareness: Defence-Minded


Sat Jun 13, 2015 3:48 pm
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Updated first set and added second set...


Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:41 pm
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Update to make in the second set:

RES: 81 => 80
TECH: 81 => 80
AGG: 72 => 70
MEN: 83 => 80

Thanks.


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