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Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1966-1967
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Author:  MagicDip [ Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1966-1967

Name: James "Jimmy" Connelly Johnstone
Nicknames: "Jinky" , "The Wee Man" , "The Lord of the Wing"

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Country: :SCO: Scotland
Club: Celtic Glasgow
Position: WF , SMF
Side: RF/BS (Mainly R)
Age: 21-23 years (30/09/1944 - 13/03/2006)

Height: 157 cm
Weight: 52 kg

Attack: 85
Defence: 40
Balance: 75
Stamina: 83
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 92
Response: 80
Agility: 88
Dribble Accuracy: 93
Dribble Speed: 85
Short Pass Accuracy: 80
Short Pass Speed: 72
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 76
Shot Accuracy: 81
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 80
Free Kick Accuracy: 68
Curling: 78
Header: 72
Jump: 84
Technique: 85
Aggression: 93
Mentality: 78
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 74

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Early/Lasting

CARDS:
P03 - Trickster 
P09 - Cut Back Pass
P10 - Incisive Run
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Passing - Side

Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded

Author:  MagicDip [ Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1967-1972

Here too some things are over the top:

I have him at TS 82, for the same reason than Lennox. ACC is more or less it.
AGI, I don't know why people around the net give him a so high value there, it's not correct, he was agile but not in that extreme way, I have him at 88 atm and I feel that it could be even a bit less. I found someone like Simoes for example comparatively more fluid in his moves than Johnstone. Same for DS, usually speaking these old players were hardly orange/red material there, I have him at 85.
TECH is too much as well, he was probably among the most gifted of that Celtic team in that aspect but I don't see anyone in the team over 85 in that matter and I would precisely give him 85.

He has too much cards as well, I only gave him these ones:

P03 - Trickster
P09 - Cut Back Pass
P10 - Incisive Run
(S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills)

overall, I find players here with too much (unnecessary) cards.

I forgot to mention it but his TW is probably a bit high too, he could work decently for the team but used to dribble and keep the ball while in possession, I'd rather go for a "high" white value like 73/74 there.

Author:  StuartBannigan [ Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1967-1972

I completely disagree with downgrading him in his technical and physical aspects, he is undoubtedly one of the 3 best Scottish players of all time and that Celtic team didn't beat Herrera's Inter for no reason, in fact they should have beaten them by more. If anything AGI is underrated, he was one of the best dribblers of the 60s and was nicknamed Jinky for a reason, he was incredibly agile. I'd have him on high orange or even low red, I don't see him as inferior to Gento in that regard and he's on 94. I'd even say that it was his main weapon, and that should be reflected in the stats. TEC again should be going up instead of down, 88 or 89 would be more fair.

On the other hand MEN is far too high, his lack of professionalism and determination was always his main weakness and the reason he didn't achieve even more in his career. Mid greens would be fine, 77 would be my suggestion. And white TMW I also agree with, he was incredibly individualistic, famously so even. There's a very famous story in Glasgow of him beating a player, and instead of running forward and playing on, he turned around and beat him again just for fun.

Author:  El Capo [ Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1967-1972

Jimmy was impressive for the era he played, however professional football was still at its beginning...Players like Robben or Ribéry at their physical and technical peak are (with all the respect J.J deserves) at least 5 leagues ahead of him.

Author:  StuartBannigan [ Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1967-1972

Of course, but I generally find agility to be one of the things that hasn't changed too much over the years, in fact old school goalkeepers even look more agile at times. Jinky was truly one of a kind in that regard. Robben is surely one of the greatest wingers of all time but for sheer skill, flair and trickery I'd take Johnstone over him.

Author:  artemds [ Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1967-1972

StuartBannigan wrote:
If anything AGI is underrated, he was one of the best dribblers of the 60s and was nicknamed Jinky for a reason, he was incredibly agile. I'd have him on high orange or even low red, I don't see him as inferior to Gento in that regard and he's on 94. I'd even say that it was his main weapon, and that should be reflected in the stats. TEC again should be going up instead of down, 88 or 89 would be more fair.

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I agree with AGI, should be higher since he was a fly in the field.

Author:  lizurka [ Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1966-1967

https://youtu.be/YEDMG8bB4dE

2:21 check out that top speed, at least 90 imo

Author:  Interista93 [ Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1966-1967

lizurka wrote:
https://youtu.be/YEDMG8bB4dE

2:21 check out that top speed, at least 90 imo

That's clearly a sudden increase of speed, which means acceleration.

Author:  StuartBannigan [ Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Jimmy JOHNSTONE 1966-1967

He had short little legs, often he would beat a defender with skill or acceleration but then they would catch up to him and foul him. Honestly, in the times I’ve watched him I was a little disappointed, mostly because he just seemed to get fouled all the time, he rarely beat more than one defender. He also rarely tried any long runs, he was just out on his wing trying to beat the full back and that was his entire game. So I think TS is pretty accurate, he basically only operated in small spaces, not dissimilar to Garrincha.

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