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 Johnny HAYNES 1956-1960 
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Name: John Norman Haynes

Nickname: "The Maestro"


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Country: :ENG: England
Club: Fulham F. C.
Position: *SS, AMF, CF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 22-26 years (17/10/1934)

Height: 176 cm
Weight: 73 kg

Attack: 85
Defence: 51
Balance: 79
Stamina: 81
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 80
Response: 78
Agility: 82
Dribble Accuracy: 87
Dribble Speed: 78
Short Pass Accuracy: 90
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 88
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 83
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 82
Free Kick Accuracy: 73
Curling: 77
Header: 72
Jump: 74
Technique: 86
Aggression: 81
Mentality: 82
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 87

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 7
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Standard

CARDS:
P18: Talisman
S02: Passer
S05: 1-touch play
S06: Outside Curve

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Playmaking - Passing - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


Fri May 31, 2013 7:21 pm
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I might be wrong but I wouldn't give him CMF. He sometimes ran back in his own field zone and for that he may have DEF 50 if not more but just that. Maybe he played as central midfielder in his late career − which isn't covered in this set − for example in 4-3-3 line-ups but in matches like one against Bristol Rovers from 1969-70 it seems that he played as inside forward. The set looks fine in general except RES and SP that could be on high green, especially his shots don't seem very powerful to me. He used the left foot very often, so WFF can be on 7 as well.


Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:49 pm
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Was his passing as incredible as this? I only ask because I haven't watched too much of Haynes, and these values make him probably a top 3 passer of all time, and Beiderbecke was sometimes a little "generous" with giving orange and red values.


Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:12 pm
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StuartBannigan wrote:
Was his passing as incredible as this? I only ask because I haven't watched too much of Haynes, and these values make him probably a top 3 passer of all time, and Beiderbecke was sometimes a little "generous" with giving orange and red values.

He was praised by several English − and probably not only − legends for his passing ability. From what I saw, I can say that he could deliver accurate passes from the back, from corner, from the edge of the box, with the right or the left, first touch or with the outside. His passes looked incredible but with these values he's almost if not exactly on the same level as Liedholm, right? If you all don't agree with red stats, in my opinion he doesn't deserve less than 94 for both SPA and LPA.


Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:59 pm
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Johny Haynes was regconised by not only English greats like Bobby Moore, Alan Mullery, George Cohen, but also Pele described Haynes as “the best passer of the ball I've ever seen.”. And Pele played against Liedholm, too.
He also finished 3rd in Ballon D'or 1961.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS1W9U-6b4o Destroyed Italy's defense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue078TQYDXo 2 years before Brazil won the 1st WC.


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