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 Djalma SANTOS 1953-1954 & 1958-1962 & 1965-1966 
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Era: 1953-1954


Name: Djalma Pereira Dias dos Santos
Nickname: "Muralha"

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Country: :BRA: Brazil  
Club: Portuguesa
Number: 2
Position: CB , SB
 Side: RF/RS
Age: 23-25 years (27/02/1929 - 23/07/2013)
Era: 1953-1954

Height: 172 cm
Weight: 73 kg

Attack: 64
Defence: 80
Balance: 84 
Stamina: 83
Top Speed: 80
Acceleration: 78
Response: 81
Agility: 76
Dribble Accuracy: 81
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 78
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 66
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 65
Free Kick Accuracy: 70
Curling: 77
Header: 77
Jump: 83
Technique: 80
Aggression: 65
Mentality: 79
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 77

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Late Peak

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Penalties
Marking
Covering
Long throw

CARDS:
S04 - PK Taker
S07 - Man Marking
S09 - Covering
S13 - Long Throw

Dribble Style: 4
Free Kick Style: 1

Attack/Defence Awareness: Defence-Minded


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Era: 1958-1962


Name: Djalma Pereira Dias dos Santos
Nickname: "Muralha"[/b

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Country: :BRA: [b]Brazil

Clubs: PortuguesaPalmeiras    
Numbers: 2 | 4
Position: SB , CB
Side: RF/RS
Age: 29-33 years (27/02/1929 - 23/07/2013)
Era: 1958-1962

Height: 172 cm
Weight: 73 kg

Attack: 66
Defence: 80
Balance: 84 
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 78
Acceleration: 76
Response: 81
Agility: 72
Dribble Accuracy: 81
Dribble Speed: 70
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 80
Long Pass Speed: 76
Shot Accuracy: 66
Shot Power: 81
Shot Technique: 65
Free Kick Accuracy: 70
Curling: 76
Header: 77
Jump: 83
Technique: 80
Aggression: 66
Mentality: 86
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 85

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 6
Growth Type: Late Peak

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Penalties
Marking
Covering
Long throw

CARDS:
S04 - PK Taker
S07 - Man Marking
S09 - Covering
S13 - Long Throw

Dribble Style: 4
Free Kick Style: 1
Attack/Defence Awareness: Defence-Minded


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Era: 1965-1966


Name: Djalma Pereira Dias dos Santos
Nickname: "Muralha"
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Country: :BRA: Brazil  
Club: Palmeiras
Number: 2
Position: SB , CB
Side: RF/RS
Age: 36-37 years (27/02/1929 - 23/07/2013)
Era: 1965-1966

Height: 172 cm
Weight: 73 kg

Attack: 64
Defence: 80
Balance: 84 
Stamina: 81
Top Speed: 77
Acceleration: 74
Response: 80
Agility: 70
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Dribble Speed: 69
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 76
Long Pass Accuracy: 80
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 66
Shot Power: 81
Shot Technique: 65
Free Kick Accuracy: 70
Curling: 77
Header: 77
Jump: 81
Technique: 80
Aggression: 66
Mentality: 86
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 85

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 5
Growth Type: Late Peak

SPECIAL ABILITIES:
Penalties
Covering

CARDS:
S04 - PK Taker
S09 - Covering

Dribble Style: 4
Free Kick Style: 1
Attack/Defence Awareness: Defence-Minded


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Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:14 pm
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Updated with MagicDip's suggestions...


Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:48 am
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He's not a little underrated? He is regarded as the best right back in history of football and his stats looks pretty bad compared to other right backs of this forum (e.g., Carlos Alberto, Zanetti). The same applies to Nílton Santos; his stats looks pretty bad compared to other left backs of this forum (e.g., Krol, Júnior) and for me he was second only to Maldini in terms of skills.


Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:12 am
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Albiceleste wrote:
He's not a little underrated? He is regarded as the best right back in history of football and his stats looks pretty bad compared to other right backs of this forum (e.g., Carlos Alberto, Zanetti). The same applies to Nílton Santos; his stats looks pretty bad compared to other left backs of this forum (e.g., Krol, Júnior) and for me he was second only to Maldini in terms of skills.

Did you watch both of them (Nilton and Djalma Santos)?


Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:53 pm
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Be considered one of the bests in Football's story doesn't means the player needs the highest values...

Djalma Santos was great but not because his skills were brilliant, he is considered one of the best because he always played very good.

And it doesn't mean anything, he already is great with this stats and as I told too many times, football works by decades, one player can be the best in his generation, but in future It's sure a player will be better than him, although that player hasn't that recognise like the older one because the older was the inspiration of those player in that future and of course, I think being the inspiration and the idol of those new players is even greatest than be the best in that position but one thing doesn't remove the other... I don't know if I explain myself very well :lol:


Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:33 pm
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I´ve seen their matches of World Cup 1958 and 1962 (not all, their available matches on the net, of course). And yes, I understand what you mean,modern players probably look better and seem more complete, Djalma and Nílton were the precursors of modern side backs. But I still thinking they were really good and their stats in PES (I use the stats of this page for all my classic players) are a little bit poor compared to other legends. I'm not saying they need the highest statistics, of course not, but I think they need a little better stats to be level with other legends.


Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:34 pm
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Albi, sometimes a legend doesn't need high stats to become a legend. They can get it by dedication and titles instead.
For example, Gary Neville. Skill wisely he's nowhere near great, let alone legendary level. But he get those titles, so he became one of the most important players in M.U legends. Another example is Zanetti. While skill wisely he's better than Neville, it's his contribution that made him recognized. And then Stuart Pearce and so on.
Both Djalma and Nilton are the same with these players. They play good, but it's their consistency that made them as legendary players. We respect both players alot, which is why we still have both as the best XI squad in Brazil, despite we have other players in best 23 that better stats wisely, such as Roberto Carlos and Cafu.
PS. We actually think that many old school players as better than their modern counterpart, especially defenders and goalkeepers. ;)


Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:22 am
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Somtimes players play very well in-game despite their stats. I've made Djalma in PES2021 from these stats and despite his 84 overall rating he plays excellently, very hard for the opposition to pass him. Same with Nílton Santos.

The opposite can be true also, Everaldo has an 88 rating from this sites stats and I can't see much difference between him and Nílton who only has 86 rating


Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:22 am
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James9408 wrote:
The opposite can be true also, Everaldo has an 88 rating from this sites stats and I can't see much difference between him and Nílton who only has 86 rating


Well, you should see a big difference between them.


Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:45 am
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Well Everaldo is faster and has a slightly better cross but in-game the difference is pretty marginal. What I'm saying is the stats may look a certain way but they can behave much better than you anticipated


Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:58 am
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A defender with BB on 84 can be tricky to deal if we're using slow, physically weak players.


Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:14 pm
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James9408 wrote:
Well Everaldo is faster and has a slightly better cross but in-game the difference is pretty marginal. What I'm saying is the stats may look a certain way but they can behave much better than you anticipated


I understood but what I meant is that Nilton Santos was much better than Everaldo in real life. So, you should see a big difference in game between both.

Also, Nilton Santos in 62 is described as way below his prime.


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