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 Gerard PIQUÉ 2007-2012 
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Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
Name: Gerard Piqué Bernabeu

Nickname: "Piquenbauer"

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Country: :SPA: Spain
Clubs: Manchester United
Position: *CB, DMF
Side: RF/BS
Age: 20-21 years (02/02/1987)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 85 kg

Attack: 66
Defence: 81
Balance: 83
Stamina: 80
Top Speed: 78
Acceleration: 74
Response: 80
Agility: 75
Dribble Accuracy: 79
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 79
Short Pass Speed: 81
Long Pass Accuracy: 81
Long Pass Speed: 85
Shot Accuracy: 66
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 70
Free Kick Accuracy: 65
Curling: 67
Header: 77
Jump: 75
Technique: 81
Aggression: 70
Mentality: 72
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 70

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition/Fitness: 4
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Growth type: Standard
Consistency: 4

CARDS:
P06 - Pinpoint Pass
P16 - Extra Attacker
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Covering - Passing (Optional)

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced


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Name: Gerard Piqué Bernabeu

Nickname: "Piquenbauer"

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Country: :SPA: Spain
Club: FC Barcelona
Position: *CB
Side: RF/BS
Age: 21-23 years (02/02/1987)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 85 kg

Attack: 70
Defence: 88
Balance: 85
Stamina: 81
Top Speed: 78
Acceleration: 72
Response: 86
Agility: 72
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 83
Short Pass Speed: 85
Long Pass Accuracy: 87
Long Pass Speed: 88
Shot Accuracy: 66
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 70
Free Kick Accuracy: 65
Curling: 67
Header: 81
Jump: 77
Technique: 82
Aggression: 70
Mentality: 80
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 84

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Growth type: Standard
Consistency: 7

CARDS:
P06 - Pinpoint Pass
P16 - Extra Attacker
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Sliding - Covering - Passing (Optional)

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced

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Name: Gerard Piqué Bernabeu

Nickname: "Piquenbauer"

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Country: :SPA: Spain
Club: FC Barcelona
Position: *CB
Side: RF/BS
Age: 24-25 years (02/02/1987)

Height: 192 cm
Weight: 85 kg

Attack: 70
Defence: 86
Balance: 85
Stamina: 81
Top Speed: 76
Acceleration: 72
Response: 86
Agility: 72
Dribble Accuracy: 80
Dribble Speed: 75
Short Pass Accuracy: 83
Short Pass Speed: 85
Long Pass Accuracy: 87
Long Pass Speed: 88
Shot Accuracy: 66
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 70
Free Kick Accuracy: 65
Curling: 67
Header: 81
Jump: 77
Technique: 82
Aggression: 70
Mentality: 76
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 82

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Growth type: Standard
Consistency: 5

CARDS:
P06 - Pinpoint Pass
P16 - Extra Attacker
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Sliding - Covering - Passing (Optional)

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced


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Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:38 am
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I just saw overrated his DEF... :roll:

And thinking about his "prime" years (08-10), TS should be higher and TEC too


Tue May 24, 2016 3:21 pm
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Update:

2007-2008:
TEC: 79>81
ST: 68>70

2008-2010

DEF: 90>88 :?: (Pique was/has always better in this than Ramos)
TS: 76>78
ST: 68>70
TEC: 81>82 (Seems good enough for him, even more when overall defenders are around 74-78 at least)

Added 2010-2012 set.


Tue May 24, 2016 4:31 pm
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Why has he suddenly 91 for DEF again? I really don't understand that, same bullshit as in Falcao thread: first you give those overrated values, then (after getting negative feedback) you decrease them and then you assign those overrated values back again to the player..


Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:05 pm
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And i don't understand why you as the only global mod don't give answer to posts that were recently by several members in the past days, instead of ignoring it, that should and MUST be your main problem; not my reviewedand upgraded sets with the right standard..


Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:40 pm
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...right?...


Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:50 pm
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Konami's

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For example i don't understand why almost all of "our" classic #10 and "#9 strikers" have yellows values for STA if they weren't know to be mobile around the pitch unless the ball come at their feets..


Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:53 pm
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...And so?

ah yes... Now I'm going to update Adriano with 98 in BB and 99 in SP...


Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:00 pm
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Maybe just SP

PD: I don't have time for it, the set was revisited, updated, i didn't ask for suggestions because it works fine like he was during 2008-2010, a wall, that you don't like him because he plays for "Farcelona" or because he's a "contemporany" defender or just because he's a loud-mouthed fool, is not my problem..

If anything COND/CONS could go down to 6-5 in order to represent some of his "well know mistakes"..


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Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:07 pm
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Yes why not? Also Zico on 94 SP, Martins 99 in both TS and ACC, Kezman 90 in ATT...


Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:15 pm
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No because Zico's shots were placed with accuracy rather than power..


Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:20 pm
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But PES 6 gave Zico 94 in SP... so as PES 4 gave Owen 96/97 in TS/ACC... probably Konami is not God...
Everyone here agrees that 91 is too much for Pique, you are the only one who thinks he deserves such a value. Are we all ignorant?
And don't pretend or say bullshit like the one here above. We can not like a player, as I don't like Busquets for many reasons, but WE ALL want to be correct and realistic with our analysis and rates.
And write down your changes, when you do it. No matter what kind of changes.


Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:30 pm
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Simcav wrote:
But PES 6 gave Zico 94 in SP... so as PES 4 gave Owen 96/97 in TS/ACC... probably Konami is not God...
Everyone here agrees that 91 is too much for Pique, you are the only one who thinks he deserves such a value. Are we all ignorant?
And don't pretend or say bullshit like the one here above. We can not like a player, as I don't like Busquets for many reasons, but WE ALL want to be correct and realistic with our analysis and rates.
And write down your changes, when you do it. No matter what kind of changes.


They correct/changed their stats with time, like everything, just take a look to Zico's classic PES 2011-2013 sets..

And what kind of arguments or analisys is a basic "he's not better than xx defender" without a further "in-depth' explanation?..

Anyway, what's the point of having an "microcosm" at each era fellas aren't respecting it? People here really hate compare eras but then i really have to deal with the "argument" Luis Suarez should have their stats reduced because he "couldn't" compete with Dixie Dean? How can't he compete? i didn't know, because that argument never came, just the player was Dixie Dean and he should be above almost all strikers in history (aside from der Bomber of course). Who is being correct or realistic here?..


Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:53 pm
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For sure not you.
You're talking about something else because you have no arguments. Gurkenjoe compared Pique to Chiellini, Hummels, Benatia and Godin, not to Sergio Brio or Nasazzi.

And what are your explanation? "He was amazing " "he was world class " "one of the best spanish defenders" ...


Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:08 pm
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Prime Pique was better than all of those, except for maybe Chiellini and Godin, isn't that enough? Watch the games and then confirm it by yourself, and compared with others spanish defenders, he was a lot better than Nadal or Alkorta DEF wise, again watch the games, there's nothing more clear than that..

There's a reason why Barca and Spain won so much and it wasn't all for Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa or the refs, you need a good defence and Pique was there, with Puyol of course but was there, at least for two years..


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I have to be honest , for me pique is not even close to thiago silva in Milan ERA , for me he deserved a number like 88-89. The Most Underrated Defender of the forum is Maldini , 96 is too low , he maybe deserved 97-98.

Also this Kind of disscusion ,destroy the thread of a player so is better if you create a section to discuss this.

In the forum of bodybuilding where i am a member we create one section to discuss these things like for example : The Golden Era of Bodybuilding vs Actual Bodybuilding , they are some users that defends the old era and others the actual so we decided to create a space for that.
Like Arnold Schwarzenegger Vs Phil Heath
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