Made by Interista93 & gurkenjoe93




COACH: Winfried SCHÄFER






GOALKEEPERS:

Rudi FISCHER
Rudi WIMMER


DEFENDERS:

Walter BAUREIS
Srećko BOGDAN
Gunther METZ
Robert NEUMAIER
Burkhard REICH
Dirk SCHUSTER
Rainer ULRICH


MIDFIELDERS:

Arthur BEIER
Stephan GROß
Michael HARFORTH
Thomas HÄßLER
Heinz RUPPENSTEIN
Lars SCHMIDT
Kurt SOMMERLATT


STRIKERS:

Heinz BECK
Emanuel GÜNTHER
Ernst KUNKEL
Emil OBERLE
Oswald TRAUB
Karl WEGELE
Horst WILD


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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

Alexander FAMULLA
Oliver KAHN
Markus MILLER
Claus REITMAIER


DEFENDERS:

Edmund BECKER
Slaven BILIĆ
Wilhelm DIMMEL
Mario EGGIMANN
Maik FRANZ
Günther FUCHS
Jürgen KALB
Oliver KREUZER
Jens NOWOTNY
Willi RIHM
Horst SAIDA
Thomas SÜSS


MIDFIELDERS:

Godfried ADUOBE
Manfred BENDER
Heiko BONAN
Uwe DITTUS
Marco ENGELHARDT
Günther HERRMANN
Wolfgang ROLFF
Werner ROTH
Mehmet SCHOLL
Wolfgang SCHÜLER
Rainer SCHÜTTERLE
Max SCHWALL
Valeri SHMAROV
Horst SZYMANIAK
Michael TARNAT
Wilfried TRENKEL
Gustav WITLATSCHIL


STRIKERS:

Eberhard CARL
Sean DUNDEE
Sebastian FREIS
Edmond KAPLLANI
Sergey KIRYAKOV
Antoine "Spitz" KOHN
Raimund KRAUTH
Hermann LEIBOLD
Christian MÜLLER
Wilhelm NOÉ
Otto REISER
Willy REITGAßL
Edgar SCHMITT
Bernhard TERMATH

Eggimann in first team? Baureis and Wimmer not in best XI? Reiser in best XI? Wilatschil as LMF? Sommerlatt, Groß, Schmidt and Müller in reserves? Szymaniak, Bilic and Famulla not even in reserves? Beck as penalty kick taker (despite having Häßler in the squad)?
Wow, just simply wow

I put Eggiman because of his international status but he's undeserving I guess. Who deserves more to take his place?
I preferred Fischer because he only played in the first league. However Wimmer is the goalkeeper with most appearances. It makes more sense to have him in the first XI.
Has Baureis to replace Schuster or Bogdan in the first XI?
I put Reiser in the first XI because he was part of the team that won the championship in 1909.
I put Witlatschil as LMF because of what I read on Transfermarkt that says he was LB and LMF.
Who Sommerlatt, Groß, Schmidt and Müller must replace? Does any of them need to be in the first team?
I will also add Szymaniak, Bilić and Famulla to the reserves. I initially put Famulla to the reserves and I don't know why I took him out.
I thought to assign Häßler as penalty taker but I got tricked by the fact that he doesn't have penalty taker ability in his set.
All that said, what are your suggestions?

What has his "international status" (quite funny since he didn't even manage to be a regular member of the Swiss NT) to do with a club AS team? He could have played 500 international matches with 150 goals and it still wouldn't have any relevance here



So what? Wimmer came to Karlsruhe when they played in second division and had financial problems. He was the backbone of his team, consistent over years and proved himself in both divisions belonging to the best keepers in both leagues. He could have gone to Köln in 1972 when they needed a replacement for Manglitz and didn't leave the club. Still wondering that you didn't put him to reserves instead of Kahn, after all Olli has "international status" while Wimmer didn't even receive a nomination for our NT..


And how does that qualify him for best XI? Best XI should contain best players, not players who won most titles


If you actually trust "sources" like transfermarkt, then it's not wonder that you keep on assigning wrong positions to players.
Those guys may have knowledge about current football (more or less), everything from the past (especially then it comes to 80s, 70s, 60s, etc) is often wrong and useless.
Witlatschil played on more than position but hell no he never played as LMF since there were no LMFs at that time..

And one last thing: don't know if you noticed (probably not) but the team doesn't have a single RB (except for Schütterle who could play there but mainly was RMF)..
Btw, the following players can all be linked:
Edgar SCHMITT (who shamefully isn't mentioned here despite beeing a true KSC legend)
Sergej KIRIAKOV
Bernhard TERMATH
Valeri SHMAROV
Slaven BILIĆ
Rainer SCHÜTTERLE
Burkhard REICH
Dirk SCHUSTER
Günter HERRMANN

I made some changes. However I still have to make some others.
First of all Sommerlatt, Schmidt, Groß and Müller instead of who?
About the first XI, what do you think of a defence with four men: Bilić as LB (since he can play in that position basing on his set) and Schütterle as RB and as CBs two between Bogdan, Neumaier and Schuster. Three midfielders with Häßler as AMF instead or Reiser (who would be out of the best XI) and two CMFs (did Witlatschil play as CMF on the left side?).

Tell me one thing: what qualifies Bilic for first team here? That he has a set on this forum? Or that he got capped 44 times for his country? He played 2 1/2 good (sometimes excellent) years for them before leaving to England, there's no reason to put him in first team here..
It says a lot btw that you don't even consider Walter Baureis for best XI, put both Eberhard Carl's and Manfred Paul's name wrong, ignore Spitz Kohn and Edgar Schmitt, put Tarnat but not Manni Bender, etc..

About Carl and Paul I got tricked by the fact that their surname is an actual name. My bad!
When you suggested Bilić I thought you meant in the first team.
I added Kohn and Bender while Schmitt was already in reserves.
What about replacing Bilić with Metz who has the most appearances among the reserves and is a proper right back?
And at last what other replacements should be made?
Thanks for the help!

No wonder I won't come here more often....
....the only player linked that is not hidden is Slaven Bilic...
Over & out!!!

Yeah, I get that this forum has had problems with PSD copying stats and stuff, but there's entire all stars teams where none of the players are actually visible. I really wonder what the point of posting sets is when maybe 3 or 4 people can see them at all...

Even teams like Germany and Italy AS have several hidden players. Not to mention East Germany which basically has a full team of hidden sets. Isn't the entire purpose of this website to share sets of players for people to use?

Team updated on suggestion from gurkenjoe93!

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