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Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:31 pm Posts: 123
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Team created by a collaborative effort of 27DONI72, Milos, StuartBannigan and gurkenjoe93BRAZIL ALL STARS Honours: • FIFA World CupWinners (5): 1958, 1962, 1970, 1994, 2002 Runners-up (2): 1950, 1998 Third place (2): 1938, 1978 Fourth place (2): 1974, 2014• FIFA Confederations CupWinners (4): 1997, 2005, 2009, 2013 Runners-up (1): 1999 Fourth place (1): 2001• Copa AméricaWinners (9): 1919, 1922, 1949, 1989, 1997, 1999, 2004, 2007, 2019 Runners-up (12): 1921, 1925, 1937, 1945, 1946, 1953, 1957, 1959, 1983, 1991, 1995, 2021 Third place (7): 1916, 1917, 1920, 1942, 1959, 1975, 1979 Fourth place (3): 1923, 1956, 1963COACH: Mário ZAGALLO The best ever Brazilian players 23-man squadGOALKEEPERS:● GILMAR ● Cláudio TAFFARELDEFENDERS:● Mauro RAMOS ● NÍLTON SANTOS ● DJALMA SANTOS ● BELLINI ● Carlos ALBERTO ● EDINHO ● Roberto CARLOSMIDFIELDERS:● DIDI ● ZITO ● GÉRSON ● RIVELINO ● ZICO ● FALCÃO ● TONINHO CEREZOFORWARDS:● ZIZINHO ● GARRINCHA ● PELÉ ● JAIRZINHO ● ROMÁRIO ● RONALDO ● RIVALDO_____________________________________________________________ RESERVES:GOALKEEPERS:
● BARBOSA ● Émerson LEÃO ● DIDA
DEFENDERS:
● DOMINGOS DA GUIA ● ORLANDO ● Luís PEREIRA ● OSCAR ● JÚNIOR ● BRANCO ● ALDAIR ● CAFU ● LUCIO ● THIAGO SILVA
MIDFIELDERS:
● DANILO ALVIM ● BAUER ● Mário ZAGALLO ● CLODOALDO ● DIRCEU ● SÓCRATES ● DUNGA ● MAURO SILVA ● RONALDINHO ● KAKÁ
FORWARDS:
● Arthur FRIEDENREICH ● LEÔNIDAS ● JAIR ● ADEMIR ● JULINHO ● VAVÁ ● TOSTÃO ● CARECA ● BEBETO ● NEYMARTHE BEST EVER XI GK GILMAR CB BELLINI © CB MAURO RAMOS RB DJALMA SANTOS LB NÍLTON SANTOS CMF DIDI CMF FALCÃO AMF ZICO RWF GARRINCHA SS PELÉ CF ROMÁRIO Captain: Bellini | Mauro Ramos Short Free Kick: Zico | Didi | Garrincha Long Free Kick: Didi | Zico Left Corner: Zico | Didi Right Corner: Zico | Didi Penalty: Pelé | Zico | Romário | Djalma Santos
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guilermerr
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:42 am Posts: 71
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Bola Clássica wrote: How about Julio Cesar? IMO he had a better peak than Castilho, Marcos and Dida and has more legacy with "Seleção" than Alisson and Ederson.
Probably Alisson's legacy will be bigger than his though.
PS: absolute number of games is unfair with the past players since there was less games during the old days. 30 vs 100 is a huge difference though. Yeah, I would put Julio Cesar in front of Castilho too. But maybe his presence in 2014 will keep him out of the selection to some supporters. As for Alisson and Ederson, I really don't remember another time that Brazil had one (much less two) goalkeepers considered among the best in the world. But I think they still need to prove themselves in the Brazilian team
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 482
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Quote: Yeah, I would put Julio Cesar in front of Castilho too. But maybe his presence in 2014 will keep him out of the selection to some supporters.
I agree. But what many people doesnt know, Barbosa was blamed because of the 1950 defeat as well. Actually, more than Julio Cesar was. It took time for people forgot about that and "forgive" him and Barbosa is listed here (IMO, fairly listed). So, if he can be here, Julio Cesar also can. Quote: As for Alisson and Ederson, I really don't remember another time that Brazil had one (much less two) goalkeepers considered among the best in the world. But I think they still need to prove themselves in the Brazilian team Agreed. It is because Brazil doesnt have tradition for the greatest goalkeepers. It is our weak point. I would say Brazil's historic level for goalkeepers and center-backs is bellow than other traditional football countries. Maybe defensive midfielders too. So, our competitiveness for those position is lower.
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Mikerdead39
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:15 pm Posts: 219 Location: Brazil
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The addition of Rivaldo is fair. Criteria in national teams is something very difficult because on one side we have extremely skilled players who have not won anything. In my opinion Rivaldo is a better player than Sócrates and was certainly more present while representing Brazil, having one of the greatest individual performances in a World Cup for the country.
I find it interesting to discuss Edinho's situation as well (maybe Cerezo's, but I understand that he is there for a tactical need, so leave it alone). Edinho, although he is one of the best defenders Brazil has ever produced, doesn't even come close to being one of the most important ones. Guys like Domingos da Guia, Luís Pereira, Aldair, Lúcio and even Orlando had more important, decisive and winning appearances than him.
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jcklein
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:44 pm Posts: 97
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Casemiro can be included in reserves. I'd replace Zagallo who was much more of a tactical player than anything else.
About Edinho: he has no place in the first team. There's absolutely no reason and no valid argument to put him ahead of the likes of Da Guia, Lúcio, Aldair or Thiago Silva. The entire squad is build with importance for the NT being the most relevant aspect and for some reason he is the only exception.
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