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Interista93
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 am Posts: 4578
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Team created by Interista93 and Bola ClássicaBrazil All Stars COACH:  Muricy RAMALHO GOALKEEPERS:● FÁBIO ● MAZARÓPI DEFENDERS:● CEARÁ ● CHICÃO ● DALMO● Vitorino HILTON● MURILO ● ODIRLEI● PAULISTINHA MIDFIELDERS:● ANTONINHO● DANILO (1979) ● Milton MENDONÇA● NENÉ (1942) ● NENÊ (1981) ● Rodrigo TADDEI● Waldemar FIÚME FORWARDS:● ADEMAR PANTERA ● AÍLTON● CARLITOS● LUÍS VINÍCIO● MÁRIO● Telê SANTANA ● TELECO__________________________________________________ RESERVES:
GOALKEEPERS:
● CLEMER ● Eurico LARA ● NENECA
DEFENDERS:
● BIBIANO ● CHRIS ● ESQUERDINHA ● ÍNDIO ● JORDAN ● LUÍS EDUARDO (1961) ● MARCELO (1987) ● MIRANDA (1957) ● Felipe SANTANA ● VACARIA
MIDFIELDERS:
● ALCIR PORTELA ● ALEX TEIXEIRA ● BAIACO ● BIRO-BIRO ● DICÁ ● LINCOLN ● MARCO AURÉLIO (1952) ● MATUZALÉM ● Muricy RAMALHO ● WENDEL (1982)
FORWARDS:
● Cláudio ADÃO ● ALOÍSIO CHULAPA ● CARLITO (1927) ● DEIVID ● JÚLIO CÉSAR URI GELLER ● MARITO ● Kléber PEREIRA ● RAFFAEL ● Marcelo RAMOS ● WILLIAN BIGODETHE BEST EVER XI GK FÁBIO © CB MURILO CB PAULISTINHA RB CEARÁ LB ODIRLEI DMF FIÚME AMF ANTONINHO AMF NENÊ RWF SANTANA LWF CARLITOS CF MÁRIO Captain: Fábio Short free kick: Nenê Long free kick: Nenê Free kick 2: Nené Right corner: Telê Santana | Nenê Left corner: Telê Santana | Nenê Penalty: Carlitos
Last edited by Interista93 on Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:41 pm, edited 9 times in total.
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Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:03 am |
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Interista93
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 am Posts: 4578
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This wasn't an easy task. There are so many Brazilian players who should or could have been called-up for Brazil. You may not see certain players because we tried to select them from all eras, considering mainly their achievements or if they were called-up but ultimately didn't play. Of course, it's very possible that we forgot someone. Any suggestion is welcome!
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Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:07 am |
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Mikerdead39
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:15 pm Posts: 220 Location: Brazil
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Fantastic list! It's really accurate, the only thing I disagree with 100% is the presence of Willian Bigode in the 23. I don't think he is better than Aloísio Chulapa in any way.
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Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:10 am |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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What about those who were approached but declined/said "fvk Brasil" before any official callup was made and end up playing for another country like Jorginho, Éder and Pepe (as I'm unsure if Deco was ever approached and Diego Costa did play for Brazil so he doesn't count).
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Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:06 am |
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Interista93
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 am Posts: 4578
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El Capo wrote: What about those who were approached but declined/said "fvk Brasil" before any official callup was made and end up playing for another country like Jorginho, Éder and Pepe (as I'm unsure if Deco was ever approached and Diego Costa did play for Brazil so he doesn't count). Dino da Costa too could've make it. In fact, we had him in the team at first. However, we ultimately decided not to count players who capped for other countries.
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Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:37 am |
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guilermerr
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:42 am Posts: 71
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Excellent list. An observation: the Bahia team was a power in the late 50's and early 60's. In 1959 it was champion (beating Santos de Pelé and Vasco de Bellini). In addition, 2nd place in 1960 and 1963. Still, probably due to being in a remote region of the Southeast (Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo), no player was called up. I believe that from that team, players like goalkeeper Nadinho and winger Marito would have a place in this selection.
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Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:56 pm |
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Interista93
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 am Posts: 4578
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guilermerr wrote: Excellent list. An observation: the Bahia team was a power in the late 50's and early 60's. In 1959 it was champion (beating Santos de Pelé and Vasco de Bellini). In addition, 2nd place in 1960 and 1963. Still, probably due to being in a remote region of the Southeast (Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo), no player was called up. I believe that from that team, players like goalkeeper Nadinho and winger Marito would have a place in this selection. We're aware of that but since I decided to keep the NT format we're currently using, it was really hard to select some players. Nonetheless, Marito is in the reserves.
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Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:54 pm |
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LucasTheGerdMuller
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:56 pm Posts: 51
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Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:15 pm |
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Interista93
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LucasTheGerdMuller wrote: He was taken into consideration but we decided to give priority to those who played at high level in teams that won major titles but still didn't cap for Brazil.
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Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:23 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2549
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How can Ailton not be here? Unlike many of those guys who just played on semi-professional level in Brazil he was very good (in 2003-04 arguably world class) striker in Bundesliga.. And it's not just him, Raffael for example was a Bundesliga regular for almost a decade, Lincoln had a very decent peak for Lautern/Schalke, Chris was pretty good CB in quite weak Frankfurt team and even someone like Felipe Santana could probably keep up with those guys in reserve..
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Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:04 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:57 pm |
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Interista93
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 am Posts: 4578
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gurkenjoe93 wrote: How can Ailton not be here? Unlike many of those guys who just played on semi-professional level in Brazil he was very good (in 2003-04 arguably world class) striker in Bundesliga.. And it's not just him, Raffael for example was a Bundesliga regular for almost a decade, Lincoln had a very decent peak for Lautern/Schalke, Chris was pretty good CB in quite weak Frankfurt team and even someone like Felipe Santana could probably keep up with those guys in reserve.. As I mentioned in the first reply, it wasn't easy. Other than researching I checked many all star teams here to see if I found some names. I clearly forgot some players and probably even more than the ones you mentioned. Aílton can surely be in the first team instead of Aloísio Chulapa.
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Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:31 pm |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 442
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gurkenjoe93 wrote: How can Ailton not be here? Unlike many of those guys who just played on semi-professional level in Brazil he was very good (in 2003-04 arguably world class) striker in Bundesliga.. And it's not just him, Raffael for example was a Bundesliga regular for almost a decade, Lincoln had a very decent peak for Lautern/Schalke, Chris was pretty good CB in quite weak Frankfurt team and even someone like Felipe Santana could probably keep up with those guys in reserve.. Yeah. I remember the great proffesional level on german's football during the 2000s with Paulo Rink and Cacau taking the german nationality. I was wondering why they didnt the same with Ailton.
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Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:52 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2549
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Bola Clássica wrote: Yeah. I remember the great proffesional level on german's football during the 2000s with Paulo Rink and Cacau taking the german nationality. I was wondering why they didnt the same with Ailton. Ailton actually offered it but there was no interest from DFB. Anyway to put some things clear: Bundesliga in those years had goalkeepers like Kahn, Rost, Butt or Hildebrand, defenders like R. Kovac, Linke, Nowotny, Wörns or Bordon and a lot of DMs that were able to "neutralize" the opponent's attack weapons, what certainly makes it an archievement to score 100 Bundesliga goals during those years (even nowadays only four Non-German players have scored more goals in Bundesliga than Ailton). I highly doubt that most of the attackers of this team even once faced defenders like those guys mentioned above (and please no, don't come up with the old Domingos da Guia myth again), so it's pretty obvious that Ailton played in a league with higher level.
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Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:36 pm |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 442
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gurkenjoe93 wrote: Bola Clássica wrote: Yeah. I remember the great proffesional level on german's football during the 2000s with Paulo Rink and Cacau taking the german nationality. I was wondering why they didnt the same with Ailton. Ailton actually offered it but there was no interest from DFB. Anyway to put some things clear: Bundesliga in those years had goalkeepers like Kahn, Rost, Butt or Hildebrand, defenders like R. Kovac, Linke, Nowotny, Wörns or Bordon and a lot of DMs that were able to "neutralize" the opponent's attack weapons, what certainly makes it an archievement to score 100 Bundesliga goals during those years (even nowadays only four Non-German players have scored more goals in Bundesliga than Ailton). I highly doubt that most of the attackers of this team even once faced defenders like those guys mentioned above (and please no, don't come up with the old Domingos da Guia myth again), so it's pretty obvious that Ailton played in a league with higher level. Yes. The German Championship was so good that I never saw Kleberson playing in the Brazilian Champiomship so easily like he played against the Bundesliga's stars on the 2002 final. Let's face the truth, if you take Bayern Munchen out of the Bundesliga, you have the same level of the Brazilian Champiomship.
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Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:49 pm |
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