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AFRICA All Stars


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GOALKEEPERS:

:CAM: Joseph-Antoine BELL
:CAM: Thomas N'KONO
:ZIM: Bruce GROBBELAAR


DEFENDERS:

:ALG: Mustapha ZITOUNI
:CDR: Bwanga TSHIMEN
:CAM: Emmanuel KUNDÉ
:EGY: Ibrahim YOUSSEF
:NIG: Stephen KESHI
:CAM: Stephen TATAW
:NIG: Uche OKECHUKWU
:EGY: Hany RAMZY
:SOU: Lucas RADEBE
:MOR: Noureddine NAYBET
:CAM: Rigobert SONG


MIDFIELDERS:

:ALG: Mustapha DAHLEB
:CAM: Théophile ABEGA
:TUN: Tarak DHIAB
:ALG: Lakhdar BELLOUMI
:MOR: Mohammed TIMOUMI
:GHA: Abedi PELE
:NIG: Jay-Jay OKOCHA
:GHA: Michael ESSIEN


FORWARDS:

:GHA: Osei KOFI
:MAL: Salif KEÏTA
:CAM: Roger MILLA
:NIG: Segun ODEGBAMI
:EGY: Mahmmoud AL-KHATIB
:ALG: Rabah MADJER
:NIG: Rashidi YEKINI
:LIB: George WEAH
:COT: Didier DROGBA
:CAM: Samuel ETO'O



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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

:GHA: Robert MENSAH
:MOR: Badou ZAKI
:EGY: Essam EL-HADARY


DEFENDERS:

:ALG: Marcel SALVA
:EGY: Rifaat EL-FANAGEELY
:GHA: John ESHUN
:SOU: Simon LEHOKO
:ALG: Noureddine KOURICHI
:ALG: Mahmoud GUENDOUZ
:CAM: André KANA-BIYIK
:NIG: Taribo WEST
:EGY: Wael GOMAA
:GHA: Samuel KUFFOUR
:CAM: LAUREN
:TUN: Hatem TRABELSI
:NIG: Celestine BABAYARO
:COT: Kolo TOURÉ
:MOR: Medhi BENATIA


MIDFIELDERS:

:EGY: Saleh SELIM
:ALG: Hacène LALMAS
:GHA: Ibrahim SUNDAY
:EGY: Ahmed HASSAN
:ALG: Ali BENCHEIKH
:NIG: Haruna ILERIKA
:LYB: Tarik EL-TAIB
:SOU: Patrick NTSOELENGOE
:MOR: Aziz BOUDERBALA
:COT: Youssouf FOFANA
:NIG: FINIDI George
:TUN: Zoubeir BAYA
:MOR: Mustapha HADJI
:NIG: Sunday OLISEH
:GHA: Stephen APPIAH
:COT: Yaya TOURÉ


FORWARDS:

:NIG: Teslim BALOGUN
:GUI: Chérif SOULEYMANE
:MOR: Ahmed FARAS
:COT: Laurent POKOU
:EGY: Hassan SHEHATA
:SEN: Jules BOCANDÉ
:ZAM Kalusha BWALYA
:ALG: Salah ASSAD
:ALG: Ahmed OUDJANI
:ALG: Rachid MEKHLOUFI
:CHA: Japhet N'DORAM
:GHA: Tony YEBOAH
:EGY: Hossam HASSAN
:CAM: Patrick M'BOMA
:NIG: Emmanuel AMUNIKE
:NIG: Daniel AMOKACHI
:NIG: Victor IKPEBA
:NIG: Nwankwo KANU
:SOU: Benni McCARTHY



THE BEST EVER XI:

---------------------------------N'Kono-------------------------------------
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------------------Keshi--------Zitouni-------Okechukwu----------------
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---------------------------------Essien-------------------------------------
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----------------------------------------------Abedi Pele-------------------
---------------------Belloumi----------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------Okocha------------------------------
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-----------------Weah----------------------------Eto'o----------------------
--------------------------------Drogba-------------------------------------


Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:02 pm
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Bola Clássica wrote:
What about Geremi Njitap, Adebayor and Aboutrika?


I forgot about Adebayor. I guess I rate him on the same level as Kanu to be honest. Anyway, all your suggestions can be considered.


Sat May 28, 2022 3:44 pm
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Interista93 wrote:
FORWARDS:

:SEN: Jules BOCANDÉ
:ZAM Kalusha BWALYA
:ZAM Godfrey CHITALU
:MOR: Ahmed FARAS
:NIG: FINIDI George
:EGY: Hossam HASSAN
:MAL: Frédéric KANOUTÉ
:EGY: Mahmoud EL KHATIB
:CAM: Patrick M'BOMA
:CON: François M'PELÉ
:SOU: Patrick NTSOELENGOE
:COT: Laurent POKOU

As I select only 12 players per role, there are some more possible choices for the forwards:

:MAL: Keïta Omar BARROU
:GAM: BIRI BIRI
:NIG: Nwankwo KANU (I personally wouldn't consider him at all)
:SOU: Benny McCARTHY
:GUI: Chérif SOULEYMANE
:GHA: Tony YEBOAH
:ETH: Mengistu WORKU[/spoiler]


I don't see a single reason why an average striker like M'Boma should be selected ahead of Souleymane. Even if you don't choose him as striker (where he started his career before playing as AMF later in his career) he is an absolute must for this team since he was easily one of Africa's most dominant players in the 1970s, both at club and NT level. Yeboah also was also much better than M'Boma and George, no matter if the latter won UCL with Ajax, he certainly wasn't some sort of extraordinary player (similar to many of his team mates who lived from their speed and then saw their careers going downhill as fast as they ran before). Oudjani also should be in reserves.


Sat May 28, 2022 5:50 pm
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I have the same thought about Finidi and Souleymane. That's why I had the latter as possible choice.
So, we can have Souleymane, Yeboah and Oudjani instead of M'Boma, Finidi and who else?


Sat May 28, 2022 5:58 pm
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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
While I don't have time to update the team in general, I have a suggestion for the first team here:

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GOALKEEPERS:

:CAM: Joseph-Antoine BELL
:CAM: Thomas N'KONO
:ZIM: Bruce GROBBELAAR


DEFENDERS:

:ALG: Mustapha ZITOUNI
:NIG: Stephen KESHI
:MOR: Noureddine NAYBET
:CAM: LAUREN
:NIG: Taye TAIWO
:MOR: Medhi BENATIA
:GHA: Kwadwo ASAMOAH
:SEN: Kalidou KOULIBALY
:MOR: Achraf HAKIMI


=> Original team lacked SBs, I added two for each side + five CBs. LB position is clearly the "worst", those two might be the best since other alternatives (Ghoulam, Boka, Bedimo, Babayaro) aren't much better. Bensebaini might be a possible choice in the future if his performances stay on the current level at his new club (probably BVB). Koulibaly needs no explanation, Benatia is debatable and could of course be replaced by Kuffour, Djené, Kundé or Radebe.

MIDFIELDERS:

:CDR: Paul BONGA BONGA
:CAM: Théophile ABEGA
:TUN: Tarak DHIAB
:ALG: Lakhdar BELLOUMI
:GHA: Abedi PELE
:NIG: Jay-Jay OKOCHA
:GHA: Michael ESSIEN
:MAL: Seydou KEITA
:COT: Yaya TOURÉ
:ALG: Riyad MAHREZ


=> I tried to balance this team a bit by adding Yaya Touré, Bonga Bonga (whose absence was IMO the biggest mistake of this team) and Keita. Maybe Oliseh would be a good choice here to have a DMF as well. Mahrez needs no explanation of course.

FORWARDS:

:ALG: Rachid MEKHLOUFI
:MAL: Salif KEÏTA
:CAM: Roger MILLA
:ALG: Rabah MADJER
:LIB: George WEAH
:COT: Didier DROGBA
:CAM: Samuel ETO'O
:GAB: Pierre-Emerick AUBAMEYANG
:SEN: Sadio MANÉ
:EGY: Mohamed SALAH


=> The biggest strength of this team. I added Mekhloufi, Salah, Mané and Auba since they all are/were top players in Europe's biggest leagues for a long time, something that doesn't apply for Yekini, Odegbami, Al-Khatib and Kofi.

Formation should be something like this IMO:

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THIS looks much better than first post.

Benatia is def the weekest of all the defenders. I would put Kuffour over him. I also rate Babayaro higher than Taiwo but that's just my opinion.

Also, Édouard Mendy should be added to keepers.

I think a 3-2-3-2 starting XI would be more appropriate to open space for Salah. Something like:
GK Thomas N’KONO
DF Mustapha ZITOUNI
DF Kalidou KOULIBALY
DF Noureddine NAYBET / Stephen KESHI
DM Michael ESSIEN
DM Yaya TOURE
RW Mohamed SALAH
AM ABEDI PELÉ
LW Samuel ETO’O
FW George WEAH
FW Didier DROGBA


Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:26 am
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yaya toure, salah , mane , koulibaly should be in first team.
in my opinoin also aubameyang deserves to be in first team.


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Shouldn't Ben Barek be at least in the reserves?


Sat May 13, 2023 8:23 am
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There is alot of stars are missed i think this topics must be update
if u need help i can help u


Sat May 13, 2023 1:03 pm
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Africa has had way too many great or at least interesting players to fill a thread without including hundreds of names. Anyway, the first team suggested here by gurkenjoe93 is fine to me. The only changes that I'd make are:
Essam EL-HADARY <- Joseph-Antoine BELL
Samuel KUFFOUR <- Mehdi BENATIA

El-Hadary is, in my opinion, an automatic choice in the first squad considering his numbers, awards and the fact that he's a three-time African Cup of Nations winner as a starter.
Kuffour is often regarded as one of Africa's greatest defenders and his career at Bayern München was remarkable, although he wasn't always a first choice. Benatia's career though never impressed me. Sure, he had his physical problems. But still, I think he can be among the reserves.

Most names currently in the reserves are alright. I have some different names here and there. I considered many different awards, African Cup of Nations wins, overall careers, and I tried to include a few players from countries like Ethiopia, Gambia, Sudan, Zambia. It's not easy though. You can have certain names or replace them with others. Eventually, you'll always feel that the thread looks good and that it's missing some players at the same time.


Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:17 pm
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Eto'o
G.Weah
Kal. Byalwa
Yaya Tourè
Oliseh
JayJay Okocha
Trabelsi
Ghoulam
R. Song
Naybet
El-Hadary


Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:57 pm
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Migueli_Vargas22$ wrote:
Eto'o
G.Weah
Kal. Byalwa
Yaya Tourè
Oliseh
JayJay Okocha
Trabelsi
Ghoulam
R. Song
Naybet
El-Hadary

Bwalya is a valid choice. I considered him for the first team but I have no idea who he may replace.
No way Oliseh should be in the first team, let alone in the best XI. There are many African midfielders who had a more consistent career.
Ghoulam has been a solid left-back but his peak was way too short for a spot in the first team. I'm not sure I'd have him in the reserves either.
I've always considered Song as an overrated defender. Good player but no more than that. Zitouni, Koulibaly, Keshi, Kuffour, Radebe were all better than him, in my opinion.
Trabelsi could go in the first team, maybe instead of Lauren if we consider the NT careers. Trabelsi had a better one. But Lauren was a better player, often regarded as one of the greatest African right-backs.


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Interista93 wrote:
Migueli_Vargas22$ wrote:
Bwalya is a valid choice. I considered him for the first team but I have no idea who he may replace.
No way Oliseh should be in the first team, let alone in the best XI. There are many African midfielders who had a more consistent career.
Ghoulam has been a solid left-back but his peak was way too short for a spot in the first team. I'm not sure I'd have him in the reserves either.
I've always considered Song as an overrated defender. Good player but no more than that. Zitouni, Koulibaly, Keshi, Kuffour, Radebe were all better than him, in my opinion.
Trabelsi could go in the first team, maybe instead of Lauren if we consider the NT careers. Trabelsi had a better one. But Lauren was a better player, often regarded as one of the greatest African right-backs.


I chose Kalusha Bwalya because he is a legend for his country, I'm glad you appreciate him. Oliseh was an important player in Nigeria's golden era (USA'94), when Italy won only thanks to Roberto Baggio. Sunday impressed me a lot. Ghoulam also impressed me a lot, when he played for Napoli with Sarri as coach, he was one of the best full-backs in Europe, unfortunately he had serious injuries.
I wanted to choose Lauren as right back, I was undecided between him and Trabelsi, but Trabelsi seemed to me to be a good defender in both the defensive and offensive phases.


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I would argue Hakimi deserves the Right-back spot. I know he's still young but given his ability and how amazing he performed in the last World Cup (the best performance of any African nation in history) I would put him above Lauren and Trabelsi personally.


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James9408 wrote:
I would argue Hakimi deserves the Right-back spot. I know he's still young but given his ability and how amazing he performed in the last World Cup (the best performance of any African nation in history) I would put him above Lauren and Trabelsi personally.

I agree. In fact, I pointed out in my second last post that the first team gurkenjoe93 suggested time ago is totally fine, and he included Hakimi.


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Interista93 wrote:
James9408 wrote:
I would argue Hakimi deserves the Right-back spot. I know he's still young but given his ability and how amazing he performed in the last World Cup (the best performance of any African nation in history) I would put him above Lauren and Trabelsi personally.

I agree. In fact, I pointed out in my second last post that the first team gurkenjoe93 suggested time ago is totally fine, and he included Hakimi.


Yes that team is near enough perfect and is basically the team I use in-game


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Salah must be a starter IMO. He already fight for the title of greatest African footballer of all time.

Apart of that, I agree with Interista93 on everything he said except one thing: I don't rate El-Hadary higher than Bell. His numbers doesn't necessarily translates how good he was. In fact, I wouldn't rate him higher than Grobbelaar or Zaki either.


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