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Author:  Charrúan [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:08 pm ]
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SOUTH AMERICA All Stars



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GOALKEEPERS:

:ARG: Amadeo CARRIZO
:URU: Ladislao MAZURKIEWICZ
:ARG: Ubaldo FILLOL

DEFENDERS:

:URU: José NASAZZI
:BRA: Nílton SANTOS
:BRA: Djalma SANTOS
:URU: José SANTAMARÍA
:PER: Héctor CHUMPITAZ
:BRA: Carlos ALBERTO
:CHI: Elías FIGUEROA
:ARG: Daniel PASSARELLA

MIDFIELDERS:

:URU: José Leandro ANDRADE
:URU: Obdulio VARELA
:BRA: ZIZINHO
:BRA: DIDI
:BRA: RIVELINO
:PER: Teófilo CUBILLAS
:BRA: ZICO
:BRA: FALCÃO
:BRA: SÓCRATES
:ARG: Diego MARADONA
:URU: Enzo FRANCESCOLI
:ARG: Fernando REDONDO

FORWARDS:

:URU: Héctor SCARONE
:ARG: José Manuel MORENO
:URU: Juan Alberto SCHIAFFINO
:BRA: GARRINCHA
:BRA: PELÉ
:BRA: TOSTÃO
:BRA: ROMÁRIO
:ARG: Gabriel BATISTUTA
:BRA: RONALDO


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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

:URU: Roque MÁSPOLI
:CHI: Sergio LIVINGSTONE
:BRA: GILMAR
:PAR: José Luis CHILAVERT

DEFENDERS:

:BRA: DOMINGOS DA GUIA
:PER: Guillermo DELGADO
:CHI: Luis EYZAGUIRRE
:BRA: Mauro RAMOS
:ARG: Silvio MARZOLINI
:PER: Julio MELÉNDEZ
:ARG: Roberto PERFUMO
:URU: Atilio ANCHETA
:BRA: Luís PEREIRA
:BRA: EDINHO
:URU: Darío PEREYRA
:ARG: Oscar RUGGERI
:BRA: CAFÚ
:PAR: Carlos GAMARRA
:URU: Paolo MONTERO
:BRA: Roberto CARLOS
:ARG: Roberto AYALA
:ARG: Javier ZANETTI

MIDFIELDERS:

:ARG: Luis MONTI
:ARG: Antonio SASTRE
:URU: Schubert GAMBETTA
:ARG: Néstor ROSSI
:URU: Víctor ANDRADE
:BRA: ZITO
:CHI: Eladio ROJAS
:ARG: Omar SÍVORI
:URU: Luis CUBILLA
:BRA: GÉRSON
:ARG: Ricardo BOCHINI
:BRA: ADEMIR DA GUIA
:URU: Pedro ROCHA
:PER: César CUETO
:COL: Carlos VALDERRAMA
:ARG: Diego SIMEONE
:BRA: RIVALDO
:ARG: Juan Román RIQUELME
:BRA: RONALDINHO

FORWARDS:

:BRA: Arthur FRIEDENREICH
:URU: Pedro PETRONE
:ARG: Bernabé FERREYRA
:PER: Teodoro FERNÁNDEZ
:BRA: LEÔNIDAS
:PAR: Arsenio ERICO
:ARG: Ángel LABRUNA
:ARG: Adolfo PEDERNERA
:BRA: ADEMIR
:PER: Valeriano LÓPEZ
:URU: Walter GÓMEZ
:BRA: JULINHO
:ARG: Alfredo DI STÉFANO
:CHI: Leonel SÁNCHEZ
:ECU: Alberto SPENCER
:ARG: Luis ARTIME
:BRA: JAIRZINHO
:COL: Willington ORTIZ
:ARG: Mario KEMPES
:BRA: CARECA
:CHI: Iván ZAMORANO
:ARG: Lionel MESSI


THE BEST EVER XI:

------------------------------GK. MAZURKIEWICZ---------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------CB. SANTAMARÍA--------SWP. FIGUEROA---------------------------
-RB. DJALMA SANTOS------------------------------------------LB. NÍLTON SANTOS------
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------DMF. VARELA (c)---------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------CMF. DIDI---------------------------
----------------------AMF. MARADONA-------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------SS. SCHIAFFINO------------------
-----RWF. GARRINCHA-------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------CF/SS. PELÉ-----------------------------------------

Captains: Odulio Varela | Elías Figueroa | Diego Maradona
Short Free Kick: Diego Maradona | Didí | Pelé
Long Free Kick: Diego Maradona | Didí
Right Corner: Garrincha | Diego Maradona | Juan Alberto Schiaffino
Left Corner: Diego Maradona | Juan Alberto Schiaffino | Nílton Santos
Penalty: Diego Maradona | Pelé
Author:  Fussballgott1983 [ Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All Time South America All Stars
Maybe we can add Messi and Dida for reserves?
Author:  Charrúan [ Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:34 pm ]
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Yes, it's already too much keepers, not need for adding more..

Concerning Messi, well, in my criteria for entering in this team he shouldn't be here.. his influence and sucess with NT aren't good, also he didn't played for any senior club from SA, only looking on individual quality, but I wouldn't put him for now..
Author:  Curly [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:01 am ]
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Charrúan wrote:
Yes, it's already too much keepers, not need for adding more..

Concerning Messi, well, in my criteria for entering in this team he shouldn't be here.. his influence and sucess with NT aren't good, also he didn't played for any senior club from SA, only looking on individual quality, but I wouldn't put him for now..


Based on that argument Di Stefano doesn't deserve to be in it and still he is?
Author:  Charrúan [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:18 am ]
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Why? He is by far better than Messi and had played more than good role in two South American clubs.. He is Argentinian born, it's true that played for Spain NT he didn't appeared in any big tournament but he scored 23 goals in 31 matches and changed history of Spanish football..
Author:  Fussballgott1983 [ Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:00 pm ]
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gurkenjoe93 wrote:
Dida? There are many GK's from South America that were way better than Dida and are also not part of this team. Instead of Dida we could add Taffarel, Sanchez or Emerson Leao but as the reserves already contain 4 GK's it's IMO not necessary to add a fifth one..

Wow...i didn't realized that there are already 4 GK and Taffarel + Sanchez aren't there. These two deserves a place in the team much more than Dida.
Author:  Curly [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:47 am ]
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Charrúan wrote:
Why? He is by far better than Messi and had played more than good role in two South American clubs.. He is Argentinian born, it's true that played for Spain NT he didn't appeared in any big tournament but he scored 23 goals in 31 matches and changed history of Spanish football..


All is true, but then you should use these arguments as selection criteria and not the impact in the national team ;)
Author:  Charrúan [ Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:58 am ]
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Well, I've tried mix all these three criterias and make selection, but Di Stefano even without contribution in Argentine NT is in front of Messi and many others..
Author:  Luanld3 [ Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:40 pm ]
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Can you do a post: All Times Rest of South America All Stars??? That would be Legends from SOuth America excepting Brazil and Argentina!
Author:  Cristiano_Naniano [ Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:48 pm ]
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Di Stéfano should be in Europe Team too... He did for Spain much more than for Argentina... So, he could be in this team because he born in Argentina and in Europe team because he did much more for Spain
Author:  El Capo [ Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:05 am ]
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Added kick takers/skippers..

I swapped Maradona with Alfredo's positions, with Di Stefano acting now more like a CMF/AMF hardworking thus "reducing" his serial goalscoring instincts to a more all round role helping Didi in midfield.

PD:
I find it amusing how this teams doesn't have neither a Venezuelan or Bolivian player among reserves (I am not suggesting that it should be one of them, maybe a Bolivian could be added though, but you got to see my point on this..)

EDIT:

Thinking again, Di Stefano shouldn't be here, not even in reserves, he's mainly a player where everyone would related him to what he achieved in Spain (Europe), more than what he achieved here in this part of the world (SouthAmerica). We can replaced him with Cubillas or Valderrama in first team to give "variety' to the squad, since only Chumpitaz and Figueroa are the only players who played in a NT outside the 3 south americans powerhouses who are in the first squad.
Author:  Cristiano_Naniano [ Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:26 pm ]
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Instead of Di Stefano, Cubillas or Valderrama could be great, maybe not the best options but yes give more variety (and not see only Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay flags in first team midfielders and strikers, :lol: )
Author:  El Capo [ Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:07 pm ]
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To put it simple:

Di Stefano should be in the first squad of 1950's, All Time and RM AS, maybe Spain's too..
In reserves maybe in both Europe and South America AS but certainly not in first team (is even kinda too lazy and repetitive to put a 10/12 players in several AS, just for the sake of it; See the Europe and All Stars goalkeepers reserves to see what i've mean.)
Author:  TheGreatRossonero [ Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:32 pm ]
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Author:  El Capo [ Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:58 am ]
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As people have not been reported for this:

Di Stefano Out, Cubillas In..

Updated Formation..
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