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The topic has been brought on for a while. Therefore, I open a thread to post some practical examples since making stats for all the sets would take an immense amount of time. The sets are based off KONAMI originals. More details are included at the end of each post. I hope this helps.



GOALKEEPERS



PES 2011 to PES 2013
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Cláudio Taffarel

Attack: 30
Defence: 90
Balance: 83
Stamina: 61
Top Speed: 67
Acceleration: 68
Response: 97
Agility/Explosive Power: 73
Dribble Accuracy: 58
Dribble Speed: 50
Short Pass Accuracy: 50
Short Pass Speed: 58
Long Pass Accuracy: 66
Long Pass Speed: 74
Shot Accuracy: 43
Shot Power: 78
Shot Technique: 40 (removed in PES 2012)
Free Kick Accuracy/Place Kicking: 40
Swerve: 42
Heading: 48
Jump: 85
Technique/Ball Control: 60
Aggression: 68 (removed in PES 2012)
Mentality/Tenacity: 76
Goalkeeping Skills: 84
Team Work: 62

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition/Form: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
Consistency: 5 (removed in PES 6)




PES 2014 and PES 2015
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Attacking Prowess: 42 (PES 2014) | 41 (PES 2015)
Ball Control: 60
Dribbling: 58
Low Pass: 50
Lofted Pass: 66
Finishing: 43
Place Kicking: 40
Swerve: 42
Header: 48
Defensive Prowess: 41
Ball Winning: 43
Kicking Power: 78
Speed: 67
Explosive Power: 73
Body Balance: 83
Jump: 85
Stamina: 61
Goalkeeping: 97
Saving: 84 (PES 2014) | 88 (PES 2015)

Form: 5
Injury Tolerance: 3
Weak Foot Use: 4 (PES 2014) | 2 (PES 2015)
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4 PES (2014) | 2 (PES 2015)




PES 2016 to PES 2019
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Attacking Prowess: 41
Ball Control: 60
Dribbling: 58
Low Pass: 50
Lofted Pass: 63
Finishing: 43
Place/Set Piece Kicking: 40
Swerve/Curve: 42
Header: 45 (PES 2016) | 60 (PES 2017 to PES 2019)
Defensive Prowess: 51
Ball Winning: 42
Kicking Power: 75
Speed: 68
Explosive Power: 73
Body Control: 60
Body Balance/Physical Contact: 79
Jump: 79
Goalkeeping: 97
Catching: 88
Clearing: 90
Reflexes: 86
Coverage: 94
Stamina: 61

Weak Foot Use: 2
Weak Foot Accuracy: 2
Form/Condition: 5
Injury Tolerance: 3




PES 2020 and PES 2021
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Offensive Awareness: 41
Ball Control: 60
Dribbling: 58
Tight Possession: 46 (while the value is close to that of the old Dribble Speed, I'm not sure if the two attributes are related)
Low Pass: 50
Lofted Pass: 63
Finishing: 43
Heading: 60
Plaece Kicking: 40
Curl: 42
Speed: 67
Acceleration: 73 (seemingly replaced Explosive Power)
Kicking Power: 75
Jump: 79
Physical Contact: 79
Balance: 60
Stamina: 61
Defensive Awareness: 51
Ball Winning: 42
Aggression: 52 (this one is a defensive attribute as opposed to the old Aggression that was offensive)
GK Awareness: 97
GK Catching: 88
GK Clearing: 90
GK Reflexes: 86
GK Reach: 94

NonDom Leg Usage: 2
NonDom Leg Precision: 2
Condition: 5
Injury Tolerance: 3



I came to conclusions after analysing a fair number of goalkeepers from various PES games.

● The Ball Winning attribute introduced in PES 2014 doesn't work like the old Response for goalkeepers. It's rarely high for goalkeepers and it's usually lower than Defensive Prowess.
The highest Ball Winning a goalkeeper has in PES 2014 is 46. Things changed in PES 2015 as many goalkeepers have a high value, although most of them seem random and probably a mistake by KONAMI.
In Pes 2016 though over 1300 goalkeepers have a value between 40 and 60, more than 100 have it between 61 and 78, and only Manuel Neuer has 89.
The ability is more balanced since PES 2017 as the maximum is 74 and only twelve, including Neuer, have it in PES 2017. However, I pretty much believe that most goalkeepers were mistakenly given a high value. Neuer has 41 in PES 2018 and 2019, 51 in PES 2020, 52 in PES 2021, while many random goalkeepers still have a high value (max 74 until PES 2020, 71 in PES 2021).
In conclusion, I'd always rate Defensive Awareness higher than Ball Winning regardless of what Ball Winning value you decide to give a goalkeeper.

● The Goalkeeping and Saving attributes introduced in PES 2014 replaced the old Response and Goalkeeping Skills attributes respectively.

● The Body Control/Balance attribute introduced in PES 2017 helps a player maintaining the balance while avoiding tackles. Oddly enough, KONAMI gave higher values to random goalkeepers in comparison to the likes of Neuer and Ederson who are way more technically gifted. In my opinion, only goalkeepers like them deserve a Body Control/Balance value in the 70 area but not higher than 74.

● KONAMI introduced more key attributes for goalkeepers in PES 2016.
- Goalkeeping/GK Awareness is the keeper's ability to judge the situation and act in accordance. It can be compared to the old Defence.
- GK Catching is the keeper's ability to catch shots, even powerful ones. It can compared to the old Goalkeeping Skills.
- GK Reflexes determines how quickly a goalkeeper reacts. It can easily be compared to the old Response.
- GK Clearing is a more specific stat. It indicates how good a goalkeeper is at pushing the ball away to safe areas. Its meaning is between GK Awareness and GK Catching, although it seems closer to the latter. The value can be an average of Defence and Goalkeeping Skills unless a goalkeeper was specifically good or bad at clearing.
- Coverage/GK Reach determines how much goal the goalkeeper is able to cover when he reacts. Its meaning is between GK Awareness and GK Reflexes, although it seems closer to GK Awareness. The value can be an average of Defence and Response unless the goalkeeper was specifically good or bad at covering his goal.

● The Attack attribute that became Attacking Prowess in PES 2014 and Offensive Awareness in PES 2020 originally could go below 40 but no real goalkeeper had a value lower than 30. Since 40 became the minimum value, this attribute had to be adjusted. Considering only real goalkeepers, the equivalences are as following:
30 -> 40-41
31 -> 42-43
32-33 -> 44-45
34-35 -> 46
36-37 -> 47-48
38-44 -> 49
45-49 -> 50
50-51 -> 51-52

● In general, the attributes Dribbling Accuracy, Short Pass Accuracy, Long Pass Accuracy, Shot Accuracy, Free Kick Accuracy and Swerve didn't get changes. No real goalkeeper used to have a value lower than 40 for any of these attributes and the minimum was rarely below 44. Therefore, KONAMI seemingly kept the same values in more recent games as well. Only certain more or less famous goalkeepers received boosts in these attributes, mostly since PES 2020.

● The Heading attribute received a huge boost for goalkeepers, in some cases from PES 2015, otherwise from more recent games. In general, the boost is of about 15-20 points.

● The Technique/Ball Control attribute seems generally much higher for goalkeepers since PES 2015. Especially goalkeepers who had a value below 50 in old gen games often received a boost of at least 10 points in new games. The goalkeepers who used to have 50 or more either kept the same value or got a very small boost.


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Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:07 pm
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TOTTI88ROMA wrote:
friend I for defense use this combo of old stats
60% defense
20% balance
20% response
=-20 stats

for all position

Hey, thank you for the suggestion! This can be a good solution, although I wouldn't include Balance but only the other two stats. The problem is that the minimum value is 40 since PES 2014 while the old games have players with Defence below 40 and it wouldn't be possible to consider the 60% of it in those cases.


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How to convert actual stats to the older ones? Ex.: I wanna create Vini Jr., how can I convert his stats from the current PES to the older ones, such as PES 6?


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rareold wrote:
How to convert actual stats to the older ones? Ex.: I wanna create Vini Jr., how can I convert his stats from the current PES to the older ones, such as PES 6?

You can check the last post of the guide in the first page. You see that I compare some special skills to specific stats. Therefore, the value of stats like Shot Technique or Mentality depends on the player's abilities. For example, Vinícius has special skills like Acrobatic Finishing and Rising Shots in PES 2021. It's obvious that he should have the Shot Technique value at least in the 80s.


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