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Name: Xavier Hernández i Creus Nicknames: "Xavi" , "El Maestro" Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: *CMF , DMFSide: RF/BSEra: 2000-2003Age: 20-23 years (25/01/1980) Length: 170 cmWeight: 68 kgAttack: 73Defence: 69Balance: 72Stamina: 90Top Speed: 77Acceleration: 78Response: 77Agility: 86Dribble Accuracy: 85Dribble Speed: 79Short Pass Accuracy: 92Short Pass Speed: 86Long Pass Accuracy: 88Long Pass Speed: 83Shot Accuracy: 74Shot Power: 78Shot Technique: 76Free Kick Accuracy: 79Curling: 81Header: 67Jump: 72Technique: 90Aggression: 72Mentality: 76Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 90Injury Tolerance: BCondition/Fitness: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 7Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS: P18 - Talisman S01 - Marauding S02 - Passer S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S20 - Flicking Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Reaction - Playmaking - Passing - Centre - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Name: Xavier Hernández i Creus Nicknames: "Xavi" , "El Maestro" Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: *CMF , DMFSide: RF/BSEra: 2003-2007Age: 23-27 years (25/01/1980) Length: 170 cmWeight: 69 kgAttack: 77Defence: 69Balance: 75Stamina: 91Top Speed: 77Acceleration: 78Response: 77Agility: 85Dribble Accuracy: 89Dribble Speed: 78Short Pass Accuracy: 95Short Pass Speed: 91Long Pass Accuracy: 90Long Pass Speed: 85Shot Accuracy: 76Shot Power: 78Shot Technique: 76Free Kick Accuracy: 83Curling: 81Header: 67Jump: 72Technique: 92Aggression: 72Mentality: 80Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 94Injury Tolerance: BCondition/Fitness: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 7Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS: P18 - Talisman S01 - Marauding S02 - Passer S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S20 - Flicking Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Reaction - Playmaking - Passing - Centre - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Name: Xavier Hernández i Creus Nicknames: "Xavi" , "El Maestro" Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: *CMF , AMF , DMFSide: RF/BSEra: 2008-2012Age: 28-32 years (25/01/1980) Length: 170 cmWeight: 69 kgAttack: 83Defence: 68Balance: 75Stamina: 91Top Speed: 77Acceleration: 77Response: 79Agility: 83Dribble Accuracy: 90Dribble Speed: 76Short Pass Accuracy: 97Short Pass Speed: 95Long Pass Accuracy: 90Long Pass Speed: 85Shot Accuracy: 79Shot Power: 77Shot Technique: 78Free Kick Accuracy: 84Curling: 82Header: 67Jump: 72Technique: 93Aggression: 72Mentality: 82Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 97Injury Tolerance: BCondition/Fitness: 8Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 8Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS: P18 - Talisman S01 - Marauding S02 - Passer S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S20 - Flicking Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Centre - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Name: Xavier Hernández i Creus Nicknames: "Xavi" , "El Maestro" Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: *CMF , DMFSide: RF/BSEra: 2013-2015Age: 33-35 years (25/01/1980) Length: 170 cmWeight: 69 kgAttack: 79Defence: 63Balance: 75Stamina: 81Top Speed: 74Acceleration: 75Response: 76Agility: 77Dribble Accuracy: 90Dribble Speed: 73Short Pass Accuracy: 95Short Pass Speed: 94Long Pass Accuracy: 89Long Pass Speed: 85Shot Accuracy: 71Shot Power: 75Shot Technique: 73Free Kick Accuracy: 79Curling: 81Header: 67Jump: 72Technique: 92Aggression: 68Mentality: 80Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 96Injury Tolerance: BCondition/Fitness: 4Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 6Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS: P18 - Talisman S02 - Passer S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S20 - Flicking Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Centre - 1-Touch Play - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balanced
Last edited by El Capo on Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:09 am, edited 4 times in total.
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Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:25 pm |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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His Condition should be 5... 2012 could be 6, but since 2013 he didn't play with the same regularity.
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:56 am |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Updated.
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Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:25 pm |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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I think 2008-2011 set needs an update... I find some values kinda wrong with him. First of all, the passes skills should be higher (at least short passes), if Guardiola has 97 and Xavi for me (and lot of people) is way better in that aspect than him, he is the best passer in the last 20 years by far (with Riquelme and Real Madrid's Zidane). SA should be lower (no more than 75- 76) he scored a few goals but in my opinion these goals were thanks to his ST more than SA. TW could be 97- 99, he was the main shaft of two of the most dominant teams ever (Guardiola's Barcelona and Spain from 2008-2012), he can be compared in this aspect with Di Stéfano or Beckenbauer, Barcelona without Xavi in that years was terrible (the matches without Xavi they lost) and Spain without Xavi... (well, you can see how after 2012 Spain is a really bad NT and it's not fault of player's talent  )
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:53 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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http://www.pesmaster.com/xavi/pes-2011/player/866/http://www.pesmaster.com/xavi/pes-2012/player/866/I guess it shouldn't differ much from this both sets...only changes some values there and there and we got "Prime" Xavi...
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Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:15 am |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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I'm agree with that
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Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:54 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Updated, the old sets: Era: 2000-2004Name: Xavier Hernández i Creus  Country:  Spain Club: FC Barcelona Position: * CMFSide: RF/BS Age: 20-24 years (25/01/1980) Length: 170 cm Weight: 69 kg Attack: 73 Defence: 57 Balance: 77Stamina: 84Top Speed: 80Acceleration: 81Response: 75Agility: 86Dribble Accuracy: 85Dribble Speed: 82Short Pass Accuracy: 89Short Pass Speed: 86Long Pass Accuracy: 83Long Pass Speed: 84Shot Accuracy: 71 Shot Power: 80Shot Technique: 73 Free Kick Accuracy: 78Curling: 85Header: 68 Jump: 75Technique: 87Aggression: 75Mentality: 76Keeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 88Injury Tolerance: BCondition/Fitness: 6Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 6Growth Type: StandardConsistency: 6CARDS: P08: Pinpoint PassS05: 1-Touch PlayS06: Outside CurveSPECIAL ABILITIES: Playmaking - Passing - Centre - 1-Touch pass - OutsideAttack/Defence Awareness Card: Balance MindedERA: 2005-2006Name: Xavier Hernández i Creus  Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: *CMFSide: RF/BSAge: 25-26 years (25/01/1980) Length: 170 cmWeight: 69 kgAttack: 75Defence: 60Balance: 82Stamina: 85Top Speed: 79Acceleration: 79Response: 77Agility: 87Dribble Accuracy: 87Dribble Speed: 80Short Pass Accuracy: 93Short Pass Speed: 88Long Pass Accuracy: 86Long Pass Speed: 85Shot Accuracy: 73Shot Power: 81Shot Technique: 75Free Kick Accuracy: 80Curling: 86Header: 68Jump: 73Technique: 90Aggression: 72Mentality: 80Keeper Skills: 50Team Work: 93Injury Tolerance: BCondition/Fitness: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 7CARDS: P08: Pinpoint Pass P20: Talisman S05: 1-touch play S06: Outside Curve SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Centre - 1-Touch pass - Outside ERA 2008-2011Name: Xavier Hernández i Creus  Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: *CMFSide: RF/BSAge: 28-31 years (25/01/1980) Length: 170 cmWeight: 69 kgAttack: 81Defence: 63Balance: 78Stamina: 87Top Speed: 77Acceleration: 79Response: 81Agility: 85Dribble Accuracy: 88Dribble Speed: 82Short Pass Accuracy: 95Short Pass Speed: 88Long Pass Accuracy: 89Long Pass Speed: 84Shot Accuracy: 79Shot Power: 81Shot Technique: 78Free Kick Accuracy: 82Curling: 85Header: 72Jump: 75Technique: 93Aggression: 70Mentality: 82Keeper Skills: 50Team Work: 96Injury Tolerance: BCondition/Fitness: 7Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 8CARDS: P08: Pinpoint Pass P20: Talisman S02: Passer S05: 1-touch play S06: Outside Curve S20: Scooping SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Centre - 1-Touch Play - Outside ERA: 2012-2014 Country:  Spain Club: FC BarcelonaPosition: * CMFSide: RF/BS Age: 32-34 years (25/01/1980) Length: 170 cm Weight: 69 kg Attack: 78Defence: 64 Balance: 75Stamina: 83Top Speed: 74 Acceleration: 76Response: 78Agility: 83Dribble Accuracy: 86Dribble Speed: 75Short Pass Accuracy: 91Short Pass Speed: 87Long Pass Accuracy: 88Long Pass Speed: 84Shot Accuracy: 72 Shot Power: 81Shot Technique: 73 Free Kick Accuracy: 78Curling: 85Header: 70 Jump: 71 Technique: 91Aggression: 67 Mentality: 78Keeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 92Injury Tolerance: BCondition/Fitness: 6 (2012) | 5 (2013-2014)Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 6Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS: P08 - Pinpoint PassS02 - PasserS05 - 1-Touch playS06 - Outside CurveS20 - ScoopingSPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Centre - 1-Touch Play - OutsideAttack/Defence Awareness Card: Balance MindedINFO: In the 2009–10 season, Xavi again topped the assists table and provided both the assists in Barcelona's 2–0 victory against Real Madrid at the Santiago Bernabeu. He was acclaimed the 2nd best player of Barcelona in a season-long voting as Barcelona won the league title with a record 99 points. On 3 June 2010, the Madrid-based newspaper Marca awarded Xavi third place in the annual Trofeo Alfredo di Stéfano award for the best player in La Liga, behind Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. 2010–11 season On 9 June 2010, Xavi signed a new 4 year contract with the club, which may be automatically renewed up to 30 June 2016 based on number of games played. On 29 November he scored his third goal against arch-rivals Real Madrid in a 5–0 home win. On 18 December he scored another goal against RCD Espanyol in a 1–5 win. In the Champions League, Xavi scored a valuable goal against English side Arsenal during a home match in the UEFA Champions League that saw Barcelona passing through to the quarter-finals with an assist by teammate David Villa. He was one of the three finalists for the 2010 FIFA Ballon d'Or, alongside Barcelona teammates Messi and Andrés Iniesta. He finished third on the vote behind Messi and Iniesta. He narrowly defeated Lionel Messi to win Player of the Year designation from World Soccer Magazine. On 2 January 2011, in a league match against Levante UD, Xavi made his 549th appearance for the club in all competitions, matching the record held by Migueli. Following this match Xavi is the player with most appearances with Barcelona of all time Xavi was named in Spain's squad for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, culminating in winning the World Cup title. The midfielder was a crucial player for Spain, finished with an 90 percent pass completion rate over the course of the tournament, completing 599 passes out of 669 passes attempted over all of Spain's seven games
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Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:07 am |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2548
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ATT needs to go down, he surely doesn't deserve more than 81 there. Also STA needs to be put back on old value, he never ran that much, not even during his prime. He was a passing machine, not a hard worker for his team.. Also TEC is way too much, he wasn't as good as Socrates there. Also 94 for his last years should be put back on old value. Same for DA, in the past it was agreed that 88-90 would be fair values for him, 92 is again too much for him.. AMF & DMF also need to be removed from positions, he never played on that positions during this time..
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Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:06 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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For 2010 he played as a sort of AMF, that's why i put that position, yet overall, he is a CMF and the DMF is when they need play more defensive..
I can agree with TEC at 94 in the last sets, Xavi never failed to control the ball in every situation, and it needs to be highlighted in this...
STA is "high" because of his never ending movement around the field, making him as the player we know (aside from TW) and the defensive pressure he puts on the oppositions, harassing and stuffs like that (certainly not physical pressure and marking like Vieira or Makelele, but still i'm sure that you get the point)..
Same of his ATT value, let's say that ATT is the influence that it has with playmaking abilities aside from passing skills, that's why it has "very" high value on that one.
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Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:31 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2548
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So, when are these changes redone? Old sets weren't that bad, some values are now totally overrated..
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Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:03 pm |
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giomarino
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:57 pm Posts: 457 Location: Modena, Italy
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Yes, DA 90, TEC 92, TMW 96, ATT 83-84 should be max for him..
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Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:23 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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STA is deserved, there is no reason to lower his STA to yellow in any part of his younger/prime stats , same as TEC, although 94 is enough, his "trapping" skills speak for itself, that's why i choose in first instance a red value This since also self-explanatory > http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editor ... onas-heartLowered ATT to 81 in "prime" set. lowered STA in the last set though, 84 is too much, aside that he wasn't already the starter anymore in Barcelona his endurance suffered a lot (for obvious reasons)
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Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:24 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2548
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If you want to use him with those stats, you can do that in your OF. It was agreed in the past that he doesn't need such high values for TEC, now again members are against this change and you still don't want to change it. That's just respectless towards the opinions of other members.. Tbh I find JeanMarc's suggestions pretty fair, also 89 or 90 should be the maximum for STA. There were enough matches where he didn't ran so much as in the one you've linked there..
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Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:06 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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I know where the TW 96 comes from, no need to hide it.. How unrespecful am i? If giving facts is being unrespectful https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vqoMyO6xbr8 =>TEC and this is only less than 4 minutes to prove it let alone at least 15 years at the highest level Anyway, we're talking about somebody who run/walk over 80 km in 7 matches in the 2010 WC, yet if he gets 90 in STA is too much overall Then again, i know why all this happens, and at some point in my life i believe it, yet somehow people needs to "take their shirt" for a moment..
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Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:22 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2548
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Wow, a YT compilation is now enough or raising abilities to red regions? I've seen similar things from Ansgar Brinkmann and didn't give him red values there.. But anyway, I'd just like to point this out again: 27DONI72 wrote: As admin I ask to El Capo don't change sets or teams without discuss with other members before. So since it seems nobody agrees with changes you made recently, could you please restore those topics? Thank you very much. The point is, that no one agrees with some of those changes here. And I don't see your problem with 90 for STA, Schweinsteiger also has 90 there (Lahm just 89) and I don't think that Xavi was ever better than him.. Anyway, this what I'd suggest for his prime: ERA 2008-2012Name: Xavier Hernández i Creus  Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: *CMFSide: RF/BSAge: 28-32 years (25/01/1980) Length: 170 cmWeight: 69 kgAttack: 83Defence: 68Balance: 75Stamina: 90Top Speed: 77Acceleration: 77Response: 79Agility: 83Dribble Accuracy: 90Dribble Speed: 76Short Pass Accuracy: 97Short Pass Speed: 95Long Pass Accuracy: 90Long Pass Speed: 85Shot Accuracy: 79Shot Power: 77Shot Technique: 78Free Kick Accuracy: 84Curling: 82Header: 67Jump: 72Technique: 92Aggression: 72Mentality: 82Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 96Injury Tolerance: BCondition/Fitness: 8Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Growth Type: Standard/LastingConsistency: 8CARDS: P18 - Talisman S01 - Marauding S02 - Passer S05 - 1 Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S20 - Flicking Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - Centre - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Balance Minded
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