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MagicDip
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:26 pm Posts: 2135
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Name: Gerard Piqué i Bernabeu Nickname: "Piquenbauer" Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: ★CBSide: RF/BSEra: 2014-2015Age: 26-28 years (02/02/1987) Height: 192 cmWeight: 85 kgAttack: 70Defence: 87Balance: 85Stamina: 79Top Speed: 75Acceleration: 68Response: 86Agility: 70Dribble Accuracy: 80Dribble Speed: 75Short Pass Accuracy: 81Short Pass Speed: 85Long Pass Accuracy: 87Long Pass Speed: 88Shot Accuracy: 68Shot Power: 81Shot Technique: 70Free Kick Accuracy: 65Curling: 67Header: 83Jump: 77Technique: 81Aggression: 68Mentality: 78Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 81Injury Tolerance: ACondition: 6Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 6Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS:P06 - Pinpoint Pass P16 - Extra Attacker S08 - Slide Tackle S09 - Covering SPECIAL ABILITIES: Sliding - Covering Dribble Style: 3Free Kick Style: 1Attack/Defence Awareness: Balanced_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________  Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: ★CBSide: RF/BSEra: 2016-2018Age: 28-31 years (02/02/1987) Height: 192 cmWeight: 85 kgAttack: 68Defence: 87Balance: 84Stamina: 79Top Speed: 75Acceleration: 66Response: 84Agility: 64Dribble Accuracy: 80Dribble Speed: 75Short Pass Accuracy: 81Short Pass Speed: 85Long Pass Accuracy: 85Long Pass Speed: 88Shot Accuracy: 68Shot Power: 81Shot Technique: 70Free Kick Accuracy: 65Curling: 67Header: 83Jump: 74Technique: 81Aggression: 68Mentality: 77Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 81Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 5Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 5Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS:P06 - Pinpoint Pass P16 - Extra Attacker S08 - Slide Tackle S09 - Covering SPECIAL ABILITIES: Sliding - Covering Dribble Style: 3Free Kick Style: 1Attack/Defence Awareness: Balanced_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________  Country: SpainClub: FC BarcelonaPosition: ★CBSide: RF/BSEra: 2018-2019Age: 31-32 years (02/02/1987) Height: 192 cmWeight: 85 kgAttack: 70Defence: 89Balance: 84Stamina: 79Top Speed: 76Acceleration: 66Response: 84Agility: 66Dribble Accuracy: 80Dribble Speed: 75Short Pass Accuracy: 83Short Pass Speed: 85Long Pass Accuracy: 85Long Pass Speed: 88Shot Accuracy: 68Shot Power: 81Shot Technique: 70Free Kick Accuracy: 65Curling: 67Header: 86Jump: 75Technique: 81Aggression: 68Mentality: 77Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 81Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 5Weak Foot Accuracy: 6Weak Foot Frequency: 5Consistency: 6Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS:P06 - Pinpoint Pass P16 - Extra Attacker S08 - Slide Tackle S09 - Covering SPECIAL ABILITIES: Sliding - Covering Dribble Style: 3Free Kick Style: 1Attack/Defence Awareness: Balanced
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Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:38 am |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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I just saw overrated his DEF...  And thinking about his "prime" years (08-10), TS should be higher and TEC too
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Tue May 24, 2016 3:21 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Update: 2007-2008: TEC: 79>81 ST: 68>70 2008-2010 DEF: 90>88  (Pique was/has always better in this than Ramos) TS: 76>78 ST: 68>70 TEC: 81>82 (Seems good enough for him, even more when overall defenders are around 74-78 at least) Added 2010-2012 set.
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Tue May 24, 2016 4:31 pm |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2548
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Why has he suddenly 91 for DEF again? I really don't understand that, same bullshit as in Falcao thread: first you give those overrated values, then (after getting negative feedback) you decrease them and then you assign those overrated values back again to the player..
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:05 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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And i don't understand why you as the only global mod don't give answer to posts that were recently by several members in the past days, instead of ignoring it, that should and MUST be your main problem; not my reviewedand upgraded sets with the right standard..
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:40 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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...right?...
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:50 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Konami's
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For example i don't understand why almost all of "our" classic #10 and "#9 strikers" have yellows values for STA if they weren't know to be mobile around the pitch unless the ball come at their feets..
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:53 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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...And so?
ah yes... Now I'm going to update Adriano with 98 in BB and 99 in SP...
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:00 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Maybe just SP
PD: I don't have time for it, the set was revisited, updated, i didn't ask for suggestions because it works fine like he was during 2008-2010, a wall, that you don't like him because he plays for "Farcelona" or because he's a "contemporany" defender or just because he's a loud-mouthed fool, is not my problem..
If anything COND/CONS could go down to 6-5 in order to represent some of his "well know mistakes"..
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:07 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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Yes why not? Also Zico on 94 SP, Martins 99 in both TS and ACC, Kezman 90 in ATT...
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:15 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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No because Zico's shots were placed with accuracy rather than power..
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:20 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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But PES 6 gave Zico 94 in SP... so as PES 4 gave Owen 96/97 in TS/ACC... probably Konami is not God... Everyone here agrees that 91 is too much for Pique, you are the only one who thinks he deserves such a value. Are we all ignorant? And don't pretend or say bullshit like the one here above. We can not like a player, as I don't like Busquets for many reasons, but WE ALL want to be correct and realistic with our analysis and rates. And write down your changes, when you do it. No matter what kind of changes.
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:30 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Simcav wrote: But PES 6 gave Zico 94 in SP... so as PES 4 gave Owen 96/97 in TS/ACC... probably Konami is not God... Everyone here agrees that 91 is too much for Pique, you are the only one who thinks he deserves such a value. Are we all ignorant? And don't pretend or say bullshit like the one here above. We can not like a player, as I don't like Busquets for many reasons, but WE ALL want to be correct and realistic with our analysis and rates. And write down your changes, when you do it. No matter what kind of changes. They correct/changed their stats with time, like everything, just take a look to Zico's classic PES 2011-2013 sets.. And what kind of arguments or analisys is a basic "he's not better than xx defender" without a further "in-depth' explanation?.. Anyway, what's the point of having an "microcosm" at each era fellas aren't respecting it? People here really hate compare eras but then i really have to deal with the "argument" Luis Suarez should have their stats reduced because he "couldn't" compete with Dixie Dean? How can't he compete? i didn't know, because that argument never came, just the player was Dixie Dean and he should be above almost all strikers in history (aside from der Bomber of course). Who is being correct or realistic here?..
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:53 pm |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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For sure not you. You're talking about something else because you have no arguments. Gurkenjoe compared Pique to Chiellini, Hummels, Benatia and Godin, not to Sergio Brio or Nasazzi.
And what are your explanation? "He was amazing " "he was world class " "one of the best spanish defenders" ...
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:08 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Prime Pique was better than all of those, except for maybe Chiellini and Godin, isn't that enough? Watch the games and then confirm it by yourself, and compared with others spanish defenders, he was a lot better than Nadal or Alkorta DEF wise, again watch the games, there's nothing more clear than that..
There's a reason why Barca and Spain won so much and it wasn't all for Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa or the refs, you need a good defence and Pique was there, with Puyol of course but was there, at least for two years..
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Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:30 pm |
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TheGreatRossonero
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:54 pm Posts: 1292
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I have to be honest , for me pique is not even close to thiago silva in Milan ERA , for me he deserved a number like 88-89. The Most Underrated Defender of the forum is Maldini , 96 is too low , he maybe deserved 97-98. Also this Kind of disscusion ,destroy the thread of a player so is better if you create a section to discuss this. In the forum of bodybuilding where i am a member we create one section to discuss these things like for example : The Golden Era of Bodybuilding vs Actual Bodybuilding , they are some users that defends the old era and others the actual so we decided to create a space for that. Like Arnold Schwarzenegger Vs Phil Heath
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