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 Alex TOBIN 1994-1997 
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Name: Alexander Hugh Tobin
Nickname: "Alex"

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Country: :AUS: Australia
Clubs: Adelaide City
Shirt Number: 5, 13, 15
Position: CB (Optional: CWP)
Side: RF/BS
Age: 28-31 years (03/11/1965)

Height: 188 cm
Weight: 82 kg

Attack: 58
Defence: 81
Balance: 87
Stamina: 77
Top Speed: 71
Acceleration: 70
Response: 80
Agility: 69
Dribble Accuracy: 67
Dribble Speed: 66
Short Pass Accuracy: 75
Short Pass Speed: 73
Long Pass Accuracy: 78
Long Pass Speed: 76
Shot Accuracy: 60
Shot Power: 81
Shot Technique: 61
Free Kick Accuracy: 63
Curling: 64
Header: 80
Jump: 77
Technique: 69
Aggression: 66
Mentality: 81
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 82

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 7
Consistency: 6
Free Kick Style: 1
Penalty Kick Style: 1
Dribble Style: 1
Growth type: Standard/Lasting


CARDS:
S10 - DF Leader

SPECIAL ABILITIES: D-Line Control

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Defence-Minded


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Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:10 am
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I've been watching lots of late '90s Australia matches, and I have to say that this set does not look much like the Alex Tobin I saw.

Although his interceptions and clearances seemed amateurish at times, he was actually a decent all-around defender. In addition to that, I'd say he knew how to deliver accurate long passes, and that he was a great team player.

If I were to update this set, here's what I'd change:
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Set era: 1989-1993 --> 1994-1997

Position: CB | CWP - Optional (no SB position)

Age: 24-28 Years --> 28-31 Years

DEF: 80 --> 81
BAL: 89 --> 87
STA: 80 --> 77
TS: 72 --> 71
ACC: 74 --> 70
RES: 81 --> 80
DS: 72 --> 66
SPA: 68 --> 75
SPS: 70 -->73
LPA: 67 --> 78
SA: 63 --> 60
SP: 82 --> 81
ST: 63 --> 61
CUR: 69 --> 64
JUM: 80 --> 77
MEN: 85 --> 81
AGG: 68 --> 66
TW: 78 --> 88

COND/FIT: 6 --> 7
CONS: NA --> 6

FK Style: 1
Dribbling Style: 1
PK Style: 1

Special Abilities: D-Line Control (No Sliding/No Covering)

By the way, the picture is from 97, from the match against Iran.


Wed May 25, 2022 11:12 pm
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I've given you command over this thread, Update him and we move him. Thanks :)
If you have further ideas on players from that generation, feel free to post them.


Thu May 26, 2022 7:09 am
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88 TMW seems a bit too high, I’d reserve those numbers for defenders that were much more involved in the build up play or were elite organisers of the defence. It’s higher than Nesta or Bergomi for example, two players who always had excellent tactical awareness. TMW is actually one of the biggest factors in how “intelligent” a player is in-game, and is quite a significant attribute for CBs as it seems to aid positioning (in relation to where your teammates are).

Of course I’ve never actually seen Tobin play, I just thought 88 looked very high, it’s almost in Maldini territory and I highly doubt any Australian defender could replicate his tactical awareness without the ball and link-up play with the ball.


Thu May 26, 2022 9:38 am
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StuartBannigan wrote:
TMW is actually one of the biggest factors in how “intelligent” a player is in-game, and is quite a significant attribute for CBs as it seems to aid positioning (in relation to where your teammates are).

Of course I’ve never actually seen Tobin play, I just thought 88 looked very high, it’s almost in Maldini territory and I highly doubt any Australian defender could replicate his tactical awareness without the ball and link-up play with the ball.


Understood. Comparing Tobin and other defenders, I think I'll give him something between 82-84.


Thu May 26, 2022 3:26 pm
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Updated.

The previous set:
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Name: Alexander Hugh TOBIN

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Country: :AUS: Australia
Clubs: :AUS: Adelaide City
Position: *CB, LB
Side: LF/BS
Age: 24-28 years (03/11/1965)

Height: 188cm
Weight: 82 kg

Attack: 58
Defence: 80
Balance: 89
Stamina: 80
Top Speed: 72
Acceleration: 74
Response: 81
Agility: 69
Dribble Accuracy: 67
Dribble Speed: 72
Short Pass Accuracy: 68
Short Pass Speed: 70
Long Pass Accuracy: 67
Long Pass Speed: 76
Shot Accuracy: 63
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 63
Free Kick Accuracy: 63
Curling: 69
Header: 80
Jump: 80
Technique: 69
Aggression: 68
Mentality: 85
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 78

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 3
Growth type: Standard/Lasting


CARDS:
S08 - Slide Tackle
S09 - Covering

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Sliding - Covering

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Defense Minded


Thu May 26, 2022 6:26 pm
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So yeah, I was rewatching some early '90s matches just for the kicks, and one particular moment caught my eye while I watched the shootout against Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcQXF89 ... 6soccerman

7:38 min. Tobin blasts a pk into the net with his right foot. That was quite unexpected, as he was clearly left-footed.

Should I upgrade his WFA because of that? I couldn't find much info on it, so maybe that pk was a one off situation, I dunno.

It's a shame that PES does not let the player switch foot in a dead ball situation.


Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:05 pm
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Nah, if it was clearly lefty, then leave it as it is.


Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:36 pm
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Updated.

I reviewed his footage, and it turns out he was a righty all this time, but with a very high usage of his left foot. I've been looking into his earlier matches with the NT and he only takes dead balls with his right foot, but as he played mainly as a left CB, his left foot was used all the time. At first it was hard to notice cuz he barely took set pieces after 1993 (at least according to the footage available).

LF/BS --> RF/BS
WFA 4 --> 6
WFF 3 --> 7


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