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 Lionel MESSI 2004-2006 & 2011-2015 
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Name: Lionel Andrés Messi Cuccittini

Nickname: "La Pulga"

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Country: :ARG: Argentina
Club: FC Barcelona
Position: *SS, WF
Side: LF/BS
Age: 24-28 years (24/06/1987)
Era: 2011-2015

Height: 169 cm
Weight: 67 kg

Attack: 95
Defence: 40
Balance: 83
Stamina: 72
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 92
Response: 80
Agility: 93
Dribble Accuracy: 96
Dribble Speed: 93
Short Pass Accuracy: 92
Short Pass Speed: 84
Long Pass Accuracy: 88
Long Pass Speed: 77
Shot Accuracy: 94
Shot Power: 80
Shot Technique: 89
Free Kick Accuracy: 87
Curling: 88
Header: 79
Jump: 79
Technique: 97
Aggression: 87
Mentality: 83
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 65

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 6
Weak Foot Frequency: 4
Consistency: 6
Growth type: Early/Lasting

CARDS
P05 - Mazing Run
P10 - Incisive Run
S01 - Marauding
S05 - 1-Touch Play
S06 - Outside Curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribble - Reaction - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack-Minded


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Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:38 pm
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Name: Lionel Andrés Messi Cuccittini

Nickname: "La Pulga"

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Country: :ARG: Argentina
Club: FC Barcelona
Position: *SS, WF
Side: LF/BS
Age: 17-19 years (24/06/1987)
Era: 2004-2006

Height: 169 cm
Weight: 67 kg

Attack: 83
Defence: 34
Balance: 73
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 92
Response: 82
Agility: 97
Dribble Accuracy: 89
Dribble Speed: 91
Short Pass Accuracy: 80
Short Pass Speed: 75
Long Pass Accuracy: 76
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 81
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 83
Free Kick Accuracy: 70
Curling: 82
Header: 71
Jump: 74
Technique: 89
Aggression: 87
Mentality: 74
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 75

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 3
Consistency: 6
Growth type: Early/Lasting

CARDS
P05 - Mazing Run
P10 - Incisive Run
S01 - Marauding
S05 - 1-Touch Play
S06 - Outside Curve
S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribble - Reaction - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack-Minded


Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:48 pm
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I think unnecessary; if he play for more one or two seasons at the the present level, perhaps we could make new stats on him; but for now, I don't feel that need.


Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:59 pm
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i'd rather wait untill his perfomances in the upcoming Copa América to make the new set


Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:41 pm
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I think Messi's condition need to be on 7. Surely, he scored here and there in nearly all matches, but he rarely performs well all the time aside from making those goals. I still remember when Barcelona beat Madrid 2-0 in UCL. Aside from those two goals, he barely did anything...


Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:17 pm
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Then it should Consistency, not Condition


Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:00 pm
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Yeah. My mistake.
So, anyone else thought?


Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:44 pm
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Well.. i honestly fail to downgrade his CONS to 7 in the 2009-2012... in nearly every game during that time he always perform great... (even thought that he play against non-great defenders every year) (During this season his CONS was a 6 'cause he perform "regular" plus not great)

The only thing that i suggest that in the 1rst set should be reduced from 2009 to 2010....Besides with this suggestion of course

For Positions: AMF should be added, at least as a optional

For Stats:
SA: 91 up to 92

ST and SP : could remain... but a point or 2 in any of those IMO will fit him perfectly

I don't know any other stat to make a suggestion because it looks good and perfect to me ;) .... and when the next Copa América ends... I will make the 4th one for him, the 2013-2015 set...

Meanwhile updated 2007-2009 set.


Wed Jul 16, 2014 5:19 am
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Aside from ST, i agreed with all your suggestions.
SA: 92
SP: 85
If the first set became 2009-2010 set instead, then no need for CONS decrease. I fail to see him performs constantly post 2009 season, but he did perform great constantly before it.


Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:13 am
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Yes, but the 2009-2012 IMO was made in order to represent him in when he win the Golden Ball 4 times in a row.... i guess that for the 1st set we can't (by now) reach an agreement; because i see that you want it to decreased to a 2009-2010 set.... in otherhand, i want that the 1rst set be a 2010-2012 set, not a 2009-2010 set....


Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:13 pm
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Isn't BB in first set a bit overrated? With this value he would be as strong as Schweinsteiger, only one point under Pique and four points above Mascherano (who is underrated in this aspect) and I don't think that this is an accurate value for him..


Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:22 pm
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About the new sets, I guess it would be better to make two: one for the 2013-2014 and one for 2015 since the difference in performances is big, and Messi's style of play is becoming different (For example, in this season he has used his right foot with more frequency). But they can wait until the Copa América.


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I don't think we need a set 2013-2014, it will be interesting a set 2014-2015 instead, but I'd prefer to wait some months before seeing it..


Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:47 pm
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Sorry for the late comment since i want it to had time to answer here....

I only want to say that his BB in prime set seems fine compared to Schweinsteiger (since he is taller, Bastian is stronger than Messi In-game) Messi doesn't dive too often (compared with the other side of the coin).



El Capo Del Cartel wrote:
.... and when the next Copa América ends... I will make the 4th one for him, the 2013-2015 set...


Since Messi perfomances are better than i've expected by the end of this season I'm in someway with Simcav; we don't need actually those stats since Messi was only way too fatigued and some injuries there and there....anyway this is what i've got from him during those lower perfomances

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Name: Lionel Andrés Messi Cuccittini

Nickname: "Messías - La Pulga"

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Country: :ARG: Argentina
Club: F.C. Barcelona
Position: *SS, CF, (AMF)
Side: LF/BS (Mostly Right, barely on the left)
Age: 26-28 Years

Height: 169 cm
Weight: 67 kg


Attack: 92
Defence: 30
Balance: 83
Stamina: 72
Top Speed: 81
Acceleration: 91
Response: 86
Agility: 89
Dribble Accuracy: 95
Dribble Speed: 90
Short Pass Accuracy: 88
Short Pass Speed: 85
Long Pass Accuracy: 84
Long Pass Speed: 80
Shot Accuracy: 90
Shot Power: 86
Shot Technique: 87
Free Kick Accuracy: 84
Curling: 88
Header: 70
Jump: 76
Technique: 96
Aggression: 86
Mentality: 75
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 76

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition/Fitness: 6
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 6
Growth type: Standard


CARDS:
P05 - Mazing Run
P10 - Incisive Run
S01 - Marauding
S02 - Passer
S03 - 1-on-1 Finish
S04 - PK Taker
S05 - 1-touch play
S06 - Outside Curve
S20 - Scooping

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribbling - Playmaking? - Passing - 1-on-1 Scoring - 1-touch Play - Outside -Penalties

Attack/Defence Awareness Card
: Attack Minded


Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:55 pm
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Updated 2007-2009 & 2009-2012 sets & added 2012-2014, then i'll go back in the next days with little suggestions regarding younger set...

The previous sets made by sandorkocsis, Cristiano_Naniano & El Capo Del Cartel

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Name: Lionel Messi 2004-2006

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Country: :ARG: Argentina
Club: FC Barcelona
Position: *SS, WF
Side: LF/BS
Age: 17-19 years (24/06/1987)

Height: 169 cm
Weight: 67 kg

Attack: 83
Defence: 34
Balance: 73
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 82
Acceleration: 92
Response: 82
Agility: 97
Dribble Accuracy: 89
Dribble Speed: 91
Short Pass Accuracy: 80
Short Pass Speed: 75
Long Pass Accuracy: 76
Long Pass Speed: 73
Shot Accuracy: 81
Shot Power: 77
Shot Technique: 83
Free Kick Accuracy: 70
Curling: 82
Header: 71
Jump: 74
Technique: 89
Aggression: 87
Mentality: 74
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 75

Injury Tolerance: B
Condition: 5
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 3
Consistency: 6
Growth type: Early/Lasting

Cards:
P05: Mazing Run
P10: Incisive Run
S05: 1-touch play
S06: Outside Curve
S15: Shoulder Feint Skills
S18: Turning Skills

Special Abilities: Dribbling - Tactical Dribble - Reaction - 1-Touch Pass - Outside

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded

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ERA 2007-2009

Name: Lionel Andrés Messi Cuccittini

Nickname: "La Pulga"


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Country: :ARG: Argentina
Club: FC Barcelona
Position: *SS, CF, WF
Side: LF/BS (Mostly on the right side)
Age: 20-22 years (24/06/1987)

Height: 169 cm
Weight: 67 kg

Attack: 87
Defence: 36
Balance: 78
Stamina: 82
Top Speed: 83
Acceleration: 94
Response: 84
Agility: 96
Dribble Accuracy: 97
Dribble Speed: 95
Short Pass Accuracy: 82
Short Pass Speed: 80
Long Pass Accuracy: 81
Long Pass Speed: 76
Shot Accuracy: 86
Shot Power: 82
Shot Technique: 88
Free Kick Accuracy: 76
Curling: 85
Header: 74
Jump: 79
Technique: 92
Aggression: 90
Mentality: 82
Goalkeeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 81

Injury Tolerance:B
Condition: 7
Weak Foot Accuracy: 4
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 8
Growth type: Early/Lasting



CARDS:
P05: Mazing Run
P10: Incisive Run
S01: Marauding
S03: 1-on-1 Finish
S04: PK Taker
S05: 1-touch play
S06: Outside Curve
S14: Quick Turn
S20: Scooping



SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribble - Reaction - Scoring - 1-On-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded

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Name: Lionel Andrés Messi Cuccittini

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Country: :ARG: Argentina
Club: FC Barcelona
Position: *SS, CF
Side: LF/BS
Age: 22-25 years (24/06/1987)

Height: 169 cm
Weight: 67 kg

Attack: 92
Defence: 35
Balance: 84
Stamina: 83
Top Speed: 84
Acceleration: 95
Response: 86
Agility: 96
Dribble Accuracy: 96
Dribble Speed: 96
Short Pass Accuracy: 87
Short Pass Speed: 83
Long Pass Accuracy: 83
Long Pass Speed: 78
Shot Accuracy: 91
Shot Power: 84
Shot Technique: 89
Free Kick Accuracy: 84
Curling: 87
Header: 74
Jump: 78
Technique: 95
Aggression: 89
Mentality: 80
Keeper Skills: 50
Team Work: 85

Injury Tolerance: A
Condition/Fitness: 8
Weak Foot Accuracy: 5
Weak Foot Frequency: 5
Consistency: 8
Growth type: Early/Lasting

CARDS:
P05: Mazing Run
P10: Incisive Run
S01: Marauding
S02: Passer
S03: 1-on-1 Finish
S04: PK Taker
S05: 1-touch play
S06: Outside Curve
S14: Quick Turn
S20: Scooping

SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribbling - Passing - 1-on-1 Scoring - 1-touch Play - Outside -Penalties

Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded


So it seems that some abilities look OP and totally overrated isn't?

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Well,i know it but this was the only way to "match" his real life counter-part; His DA is unmatched since 2007; there is no player on the world who could dribble like him (kinda pity that he isn't going to face the ones of Maldini, Scirea or T. Addams just for example) but then again; it is unquestionable.

ATT too high? well as with the DA explanation; there is no one as dangerous during this "era" like him.

SA way high? I know that score millions of goals in the way offensive minded league like La Liga; his shoots are by far more clinical than the other one who keep up with him in goals...

That regarding the mentioned abilities he is on the level of Romario, G. Müller, Eusebio, etc..?

Differents players, differents styles, differents times...

And for last; don't think that this updated stats made him better than the ones mentioned above, or many others legends of this sport; I just made this update because it was "necessary"...


BTW, i don't know if i spelled that right....


Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:34 am
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