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Roberto BAGGIO 1992-1994 | 1997-1999 | 2001-2004
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Nakayama
Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:45 am Posts: 321
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Name: Roberto Baggio Country: ItalyClubs: JuventusPosition: ★SS , CF , AMFSide: RF/BSAge: 25-27 years (18/02/1967) Height: 174 cmWeight: 72 kgAttack: 93Defence: 42Balance: 74Stamina: 79Top Speed: 78Acceleration: 86Response: 85Agility: 85Dribble Accuracy: 97Dribble Speed: 88Short Pass Accuracy: 92Short Pass Speed: 77Long Pass Accuracy: 90Long Pass Speed: 72Shot Accuracy: 94Shot Power: 78Shot Technique: 95Free Kick Accuracy: 92Curling: 92Header: 79Jump: 71Technique: 98Aggression: 86Mentality: 90Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 85Injury Tolerance: CCondition: 5Weak Foot Accuracy: 7Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 7Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS:P10 - Incisive Run S02 - Passer S03 - 1-On-1 Finish S04 - PK Taker S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills S20 - Flicking Skills S21 - Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Tactical Dribble - Passing - 1-On-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Freekick Style: 4Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Name: Roberto Baggio Country: ItalyClubs: Bologna | InternazionalePosition: ★SS , CF , AMFSide: RF/BSAge: 31-32 years (18/02/1967) Height: 174 cmWeight: 72 kgAttack: 96Defence: 42Balance: 74Stamina: 76Top Speed: 77Acceleration: 83Response: 82Agility: 83Dribble Accuracy: 96Dribble Speed: 83Short Pass Accuracy: 95Short Pass Speed: 77Long Pass Accuracy: 90Long Pass Speed: 73Shot Accuracy: 95Shot Power: 77Shot Technique: 96Free Kick Accuracy: 92Curling: 92Header: 74Jump: 67Technique: 98Aggression: 75Mentality: 85Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 85Injury Tolerance: CCondition: 4Weak Foot Accuracy: 7Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 7Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS:P10 - Incisive Run S02 - Passer S03 - 1-On-1 Finish S04 - PK Taker S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills S20 - Flicking Skills S21 - Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Passing - 1-On-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Freekick Style: 4Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Name: Roberto Baggio Country: ItalyClub: BresciaPosition: ★SS , AMFSide: RF/BSAge: 34-37 years (18/02/1967) Height: 174 cmWeight: 72 kgAttack: 93Defence: 42Balance: 73Stamina: 74Top Speed: 73Acceleration: 76Response: 88Agility: 79Dribble Accuracy: 96Dribble Speed: 76Short Pass Accuracy: 95Short Pass Speed: 77Long Pass Accuracy: 90Long Pass Speed: 73Shot Accuracy: 94Shot Power: 77Shot Technique: 95Free Kick Accuracy: 92Curling: 92Header: 73Jump: 67Technique: 99Aggression: 73Mentality: 92Goalkeeper Skills: 50Team Work: 93Injury Tolerance: CCondition: 3Weak Foot Accuracy: 7Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 8Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS:P10 - Incisive Run S02 - Passer S03 - 1-On-1 Finish S04 - PK Taker S05 - 1-Touch Play S06 - Outside Curve S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills S20 - Flicking Skills S21 - Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribble - Playmaking - Passing - 1-On-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Freekick Style: 4Attack/Defence Awareness: Attack-Minded
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Sat Mar 16, 2013 4:30 pm |
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Fussballgott1983
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:09 pm Posts: 130
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Are you sure about this TW and passing value for Baggio in second and third set? I feel that his passes are much more inconsistent compared to Zidane in any era, and his TW looks very contrasted with his crappy stamina value, especially since players that has lowered fitness usually not moving that much anymore.
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Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:54 am |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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In my opinion his TW looks very overrated in two last sets and underrated in first set, why he has only 80?... I see him in his prime at Juventus equal or little lower than Messi in 2009-2012's set (85).
Finally for the other sets, looks overrated for me, TW in 1997-98 should be yellow, I personally think 87 could suit him, STA could be higher, 79 for me is fine, he had that STA to at least ran and keep the level for 60 or 70 minutes
And the same for 2000-04, he should have 90-91... In my opinion the only one set for him who deserves orange value in TW. And well, I have my personal doubts about his MENT... Why? Well, I saw the set made by Konami for this player, and they give him 88. For me a suitable value for this set.
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Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:56 pm |
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Fussballgott1983
Joined: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:09 pm Posts: 130
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I agreed with your TW suggestions. Maybe 89 for the last set instead since i don't feel he's that much mobile than Zidane in his twilight years. I don't like giving high orange TW for players with low STA, but thinking about it again, Baggio's mobility made high teamwork suited him. And agreed on higher TW for his Juventus stat. I also agree with MENT and STA. Also, do you think that the current passing stats suited him? For me, his passes seems to got intercepted far more often than players with similar values on accuracy like Guti and Zidane. But maybe the low speed pass stats already enough since it's the lacks of power that made his passes went into the wrong feet.
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Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:42 pm |
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Cristiano_Naniano
Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:51 pm Posts: 589
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For me his Pass skills are good, they were too slow, and thats why they were intercepted... But as accuracy I think he was in the level of Guti and Zidane, yes... Maybe too high his Long passes skills in latest two sets, but I prefer say anything before to re-watch more matches from him before, I'm talking from my memory right now, as you know guys, I'm very busy this first days of September 
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Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:57 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Updated Naka's sets, and added AMF to prime set, here're the old sets: Name: Roberto Baggio
Nickname: "Il Divin Codino" Country: Italy Club: Juventus F.C. Number: 10 Position: *SS, CF Side: RF/BS Age: 23-27 years (18/02/1967)
Height: 174 cm Weight: 73 kg
Attack: 90 Defence: 44 Balance: 78 Stamina: 82 Top Speed: 81 Acceleration: 85 Response: 85 Agility: 86 Dribble Accuracy: 96 Dribble Speed: 88 Short Pass Accuracy: 86 Short Pass Speed: 80 Long Pass Accuracy: 87 Long Pass Speed: 78 Shot Accuracy: 94 Shot Power: 80 Shot Technique: 90 Free Kick Accuracy: 93 Curling: 96 Header: 77 Jump: 76 Technique: 96 Aggression: 86 Mentality: 77 Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 80
Injury Tolerance: B Condition: 7 Weak Foot Accuracy: 7 Weak Foot Frequency: 6 Consistency: 7 Growth type: Standard
CARDS: S02 - Passer S03 - 1-on-1 Finish S04 - PK Taker S05 - 1-touch Play S06 - Outside curve S15 - Shoulder Feint Skills S16 - Roulette Skills S20 - Flicking Skills S21 - Step On Skills P10 - Incisive Run P15 - Free Roaming
SPECIAL ABILITIES: Dribbling - Passing - 1-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside
Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STATS BY NAKAYAMA#9 ERA 1997-1998Name: Roberto Baggio
Nickname: "Il Divin Codino" Country:  Italy Club: Bologna F.C.Number: 10 Position: *SS, CF, AMSide: RF/BS Age: 30-31 years (18/02/1967) Era: 1997-1998 Height: 174 cm Weight: 73 kg Attack: 93Defence: 44 Balance: 76Stamina: 77Top Speed: 78Acceleration: 83Response: 85Agility: 84Dribble Accuracy: 96Dribble Speed: 82Short Pass Accuracy: 93Short Pass Speed: 79Long Pass Accuracy: 90Long Pass Speed: 78Shot Accuracy: 96Shot Power: 79Shot Technique: 95Free Kick Accuracy: 94Curling: 96Header: 78Jump: 71 Technique: 97Aggression: 82Mentality: 90Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 90Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 6Weak Foot Accuracy: 7Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 7Growth type: Early/Lasting CARDS: P01: Classic No. 10 S02: Passer S03: 1-on-1 Finish S04: PK Taker S05: 1-touch Play S06: Outside Curve S15: Shoulder Feint Skills S16: Roulette Skills S20: Flicking Skills S21: Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribbling - Passing - 1-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded INFO:His best season ever!-He wasn't maybe that quick like before ,but he became one of the completest offensive players ever and a permanent goalscorer. In 30 matches for Bologna in the season 1997/98 he scored 22 goals and got back his place in the Italian national team for the 1998 world cup in France. _____________________________________________________________ STATS BY NAKAYAMA#9 ERA 2000-2004Name: Roberto Baggio
Nickname: "Il Divin Codino" Country:  Italy Club: Brescia Number: 10 Position: *SS, CF, AMSide: RF/BS Age: 33-37 years (18/02/1967) Era: 2000-2004 Height: 174 cm Weight: 73 kg Attack: 91Defence: 44 Balance: 74 Stamina: 75Top Speed: 74 Acceleration: 77Response: 85Agility: 82Dribble Accuracy: 96Dribble Speed: 79Short Pass Accuracy: 95Short Pass Speed: 77Long Pass Accuracy: 90Long Pass Speed: 74 Shot Accuracy: 94Shot Power: 77Shot Technique: 95Free Kick Accuracy: 94Curling: 96Header: 74 Jump: 67 Technique: 97Aggression: 77Mentality: 92Goalkeeper Skills: 50 Team Work: 93Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 6Weak Foot Accuracy: 7Weak Foot Frequency: 6Consistency: 7Growth type: Late/Lasting CARDS: P01: Classic No. 10 S02: Passer S03: 1-on-1 Finish S04: PK Taker S05: 1-touch Play S06: Outside Curve S15: Shoulder Feint Skills S16: Roulette Skills S20: Flicking Skills S21: Step On Skills SPECIAL ABILITIES: Tactical Dribbling - Passing - 1-1 Scoring - Penalties - 1-Touch Pass - Outside Attack/Defence Awareness Card: Attack Minded
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Mon Jul 18, 2016 11:43 pm |
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TheGreatRossonero
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:54 pm Posts: 1292
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He really deserve 99 TEC in Brescia 
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:18 am |
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Il Maestro
Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:46 am Posts: 82 Location: In a place on the center-south of Chile
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he deserves a 98 of TECH in his prime era, also a higher pass capacity. SPA 92-93 and LPA 88-89-90
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:26 am |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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It could be 99 in DA/TEC in all the sets, Baggio is arguably the best dribbler in terms of pure quality, no one comes close to him, not even Garrincha nor Littbarski..
In the update, some values are still debatables, like TW and FKA ,which i think that it should remain in the old values (talking about FKA)...
As for suggestions in prime set i agree with it..
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:09 am |
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gurkenjoe93
Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 2548
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Baggio better than Littbarski or Best? No way, considering that he sits on the same level as Cruyff (who was a better dribbler than Baggio btw) is already fair enough. Same for TEC btw, there is absolutely no reason to put him on a level with Zidane.. And passing stats are fine as they are, he became better in this aspects in his later years, not during his prime..
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:12 am |
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Saeta
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:45 pm Posts: 81
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Cocerning DA, I also think that Baggio is inferior to Best, anyway. Thus I'd be okay with 98 although I liked the original value better. Same with TEC: Imo, he isn't on the same level as the likes of Zidane, Maradona and Ronaldinho. So, TEC 97-98 is the maximum I could agree with.
I'm also not sure about ATT 96. I mean, his Bologna season was exceptional but since especially on this site red ATT values are given very rarely to Non-CF-players, I'm not sure whether he truly deserves that value.
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:48 am |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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Mate, can I ask you a question? Why do you update and edit the previous sets made by good stats makers without asking anyone or without at least posting your ideas? These sets of Baggio could be updated, but probably no one here wants to have 99 in TEC for him, so why don't you put your suggestions before updating everything? This is a forum, everyone has his ideas, we have to respect each other and our works, and even if some members are not active anymore, and others (like me) have few time to work here, we should at least try to work TOGETHER.
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:51 am |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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The old sets are there if people wants to keep them, i'm just updating the sets made by this former member since MagicDip have gave me the updated version of this stats made by, worth the redundancy, Naka.. Saeta wrote: I'm also not sure about ATT 96. I mean, his Bologna season was exceptional but since especially on this site red ATT values are given very rarely to Non-CF-players, I'm not sure whether he truly deserves that value.  I do not follow this since ATT in the old format isn't just how good the poacher is, because if it was, then i'm pretty sure that all the greatest players, like Di Stefano, Maradona, Pele, Cruijff (except from let's say, G. Muller who is a poacher) wouldn't have been rated orange-red Attack since aren't goal poachers..
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:37 am |
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Simcav
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 pm Posts: 1743
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El Capo wrote: The old sets are there if people wants to keep them, i'm just updating the sets made by this former member since MagicDip have gave me the updated version of this stats made by, worth the redundancy, Naka..
No, old sets are here if they are good, and unless there are no more suggestions, the stats will remain the same. I don't like that you're updating old stats without giving explanation. Why DA from 96 to 98? Why TEC from 97 to 98 and 99? Why now there are almost 10 points of difference between MEN&TMW from 1997-1998 to 2000-2004? Why ATT in 1997-1998 is now at 96? Please give explanation when you update a player. No, it's better if you don't update them at all, before asking suggestions from the other members. MagicDip gave you new sets? Ok, that's fine, why don't you post them on the reply, instead of updating the previous ones? Maybe the other members don't agree with your idea or MagicDip's or Nakayama's or anyone else's. So, probably, we can find a compromise, or if everyone agrees, you can update. But, before updating, post your sets in the reply.
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:52 am |
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Saeta
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:45 pm Posts: 81
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@ Capo: Yes, but the original set already had an orange attack value. Thus his ability to create dangerous situations was at a world class level. But 96 is just too much for him, especially since players like Zico and Platini don't even have orange ATT values although being not only way more prolific goalscorers but also better offensive players in general than Baggio had ever been. 
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Tue Jul 19, 2016 11:58 am |
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