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Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:31 pm Posts: 126
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Team created by a collaborative effort of 27DONI72, Milos, StuartBannigan and gurkenjoe93FRANCE ALL STARS Honours: • FIFA World CupWinners (2): 1998, 2018 Runners-up (2): 2006, 2022 Third place (2): 1958, 1986 Fourth place (1): 1982• UEFA European ChampionshipWinners (2): 1984, 2000 Runners-up (1): 2016 Fourth place (1): 1960 Semi-Final (2): 1996, 2024• UEFA Nations LeagueWinners(1): 2021• FIFA Confederations CupWinners (2): 2001, 2003COACH: Michel HIDALGO The best ever French players 23-man squadGOALKEEPERS:● Joël BATS ● Fabien BARTHEZDEFENDERS:● Robert JONQUET ● Marius TRÉSOR ● Maxime BOSSIS ● Manuel AMOROS ● Laurent BLANC ● Marcel DESAILLY ● Bixente LIZARAZU ● Lilian THURAMMIDFIELDERS:● Alain GIRESSE ● Michel PLATINI ● Jean TIGANA ● Luis FERNÁNDEZ ● Didier DESCHAMPS ● Zinédine ZIDANE ● Patrick VIEIRAFORWARDS:● Raymond KOPA ● Just FONTAINE ● Dominique ROCHETEAU ● Thierry HENRY ● Antoine GRIEZMANN ● Kylian MBAPPÉ_____________________________________________________________ RESERVES:GOALKEEPERS:
● Julien DARUI ● George CARNUS ● Hugo LLORIS
DEFENDERS:
● Étienne MATTLER ● Roger MARCHE ● Raymond KAELBEL ● André LEROND ● Jean DJORKAEFF ● Bernard BOSQUIER ● Christian LOPEZ ● Gérard JANVION ● Patrick BATTISTON ● Raphaël VARANE
MIDFIELDERS:
● Edmond DELFOUR ● Oscar HEISSERER ● Armand PENVERNE ● Jean-Jacques MARCEL ● Henri MICHEL ● Emmanuel PETIT ● Youri DJORKAEFF ● Claude MAKÉLÉLÉ ● Paul POGBA ● N'Golo KANTÉ
FORWARDS:
● Émile VEINANTE ● Jean NICOLAS ● Alfred ASTON ● Jean BARATTE ● Roger PIANTONI ● Jean VINCENT ● Didier SIX ● Jean-Pierre PAPIN ● David TRÉZÉGUET ● Olivier GIROUDTHE BEST EVER XI GK BATS SWP BLANC CB DESAILLY RB THURAM LB AMOROS DMF DESCHAMPS CMF TIGANA AMF KOPA AMF PLATINI © AMF ZIDANE CF MBAPPÉ Captain: Michel Platini | Didier Deschamps | Zinédine Zidane Short Free Kick: Michel Platini | Zinédine Zidane | Manuel Amoros Long Free Kick: Michel Platini | Zinédine Zidane | Raymond Kopa Left Corner: Zinédine Zidane | Raymond Kopa Right Corner: Zinédine Zidane | Raymond Kopa Penalty: Kylian Mbappé | Michel Platini | Zinédine Zidane
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:29 pm |
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artemds
Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:07 am Posts: 568
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27DONI72 wrote: I'm not sure Lloris is better than Bats or Barthez. IMHO he is just an average GK. I agree with this. Neuer is 1000000 better and he is not in Germany AS NT. (I know Germany had far better Gks in his history than France)
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Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:34 pm |
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Mikerdead39
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:15 pm Posts: 220 Location: Brazil
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And about the new generation?
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Sat May 02, 2020 10:45 pm |
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FanisJK7
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:59 pm Posts: 151 Location: Greece
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Mikerdead39 wrote: And about the new generation? I think it's too soon to include someone other than Lloris since he has completed more than 100 caps.. I'm pretty sure in the future they will be included but for the moment I think the team it's ok..
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Mon May 04, 2020 10:34 am |
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StuartBannigan
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm Posts: 1650
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Completely updated this team:
Marche > Jonquet Djorkaeff > Vincent Piantoni > Griezmann Cleaned up the reserves
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Sun May 24, 2020 6:11 pm |
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FanisJK7
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:59 pm Posts: 151 Location: Greece
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StuartBannigan wrote: Completely updated this team:
Marche > Jonquet Djorkaeff > Vincent Piantoni > Griezmann Cleaned up the reserves isn't Griezmann a bit overrated choice?
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:57 pm |
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StuartBannigan
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm Posts: 1650
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FanisJK7 wrote: isn't Griezmann a bit overrated choice? He was arguably the best player of one of only 2 French teams to win the World Cup. I don't think modern players should be held to higher standards than older players; I doubt you'd ask that question about Djorkaeff and Piantoni who were previously in the team, and Griezmann has been more important in France's success than they were.
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:06 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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No, he isn't, Griezmann have reached a perfomance peak that perhaps only 6-7 offensive players of France have reached (Zizou, Titi, Platoche, Justo, Napoleon, Canto, JPP and maybe Cobra and Franck Ribéry, this last player unfortunately had a debatible mediocre career in Lé Équipe outside the 2006 WC)
I personally think he shouldn't be here just because he's still on his (late) 20's and he's still playing, but look what all the relevant offensive players did with the NT of France had through its history, he has undoubtedly earned his place.
In the next couple of years, it should be debatable whether N'Golo Kanté must be named here either as a reserve or as a full member here.
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Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:18 pm |
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FanisJK7
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:59 pm Posts: 151 Location: Greece
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El Capo wrote: No, he isn't, Griezmann have reached a perfomance peak that perhaps only 6-7 offensive players of France have reached (Zizou, Titi, Platoche, Justo, Napoleon, Canto, JPP and maybe Cobra and Franck Ribéry, this last player unfortunately had a debatible mediocre career in Lé Équipe outside the 2006 WC)
I personally think he shouldn't be here just because he's still on his (late) 20's and he's still playing, but look what all the relevant offensive players did with the NT of France had through its history, he has undoubtedly earned his place.
In the next couple of years, it should be debatable whether N'Golo Kanté must be named here either as a reserve or as a full member here. That's why I objected to his 23-man squad entrance. In general Griezmann has been having a pretty good national stint but I believe it's too early to include him. I won't doubt his achievements and he might be already better than some of his predecessors as Stuart said but I think for the moment he can't beat classic likes of Cantona, Trezeguet or Papin.
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Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:26 pm |
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FanisJK7
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:59 pm Posts: 151 Location: Greece
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StuartBannigan wrote: FanisJK7 wrote: isn't Griezmann a bit overrated choice? He was arguably the best player of one of only 2 French teams to win the World Cup. I don't think modern players should be held to higher standards than older players; I doubt you'd ask that question about Djorkaeff and Piantoni who were previously in the team, and Griezmann has been more important in France's success than they were. If we had to declare a leader that would be him probably but France operated perfectly at both offence and defence. Mbappe and Kante had a major impact as well. Another factor was that France had the most physical team. I don't believe they won it prior to a technical or tactical masterclass nor the leadership of Griezmann. And by no means I would include to an all-star team a player whose national career began 5 years ago. We should evaluate his entrance in the future.
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Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:40 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Cantona and Papin didn't do anything relevant for France, all they did was bottled the 1992 Euro when they floored their way in during the qualifiers and failed to appear in 2 World Cups in their prime + France contained a nice pool of players considering that Ligue 1 was having one of their best eras which is even more tragic if you ask me (Needless to say that Cantona couldn't shut his mouth up which led him to avoidable suspensions, but I guess that's part of his legacy lol)
Treze, besides scoring the winner against Italy in the 2000 EC, was largely the bench of Henry, that's like adding Lebœuf in the main squad I guess.
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:32 am |
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FanisJK7
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:59 pm Posts: 151 Location: Greece
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El Capo wrote: Cantona and Papin didn't do anything relevant for France, all they did was bottled the 1992 Euro when they floored their way in during the qualifiers and failed to appear in 2 World Cups in their prime + France contained a nice pool of players considering that Ligue 1 was having one of their best eras which is even more tragic if you ask me (Needless to say that Cantona couldn't shut his mouth up which led him to avoidable suspensions, but I guess that's part of his legacy lol)
Treze, besides scoring the winner against Italy in the 2000 EC, was largely the bench of Henry, that's like adding Lebœuf in the main squad I guess. Yep all the facts are totally understood. I just wasn't sure that only national performance counts. Also I'm kinda prejudiced with Antoine because of the hype sometimes media attach to him, not to forget the fact Antoine himself released a documentary declaring him as a legend(totally unnecessary). Imo he is a great all-arounder in terms of abilities and a great tool for any coach but does not possess something world class to say. And I was kinda disappointed watching him recently at Barca. Eventually I can do nothing but compromise, since not only you but other sites as well select him to the final squad.
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Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:53 pm |
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guilermerr
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:42 am Posts: 71
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Doesn't Mbappe already deserve to be among the 23? He played very well in the 2018 cup, although he was not the main player, and in 2022 he had an epic cup, being top scorer and scoring three goals in the final. Maybe he can replace Vincent or Rocheteau
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Fri May 05, 2023 10:18 am |
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GamingPass
Joined: Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:24 am Posts: 54
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Surely instead Henry who was a big flop in big WC games
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Fri May 05, 2023 2:52 pm |
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Interista93
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 am Posts: 4574
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GamingPass wrote: Surely instead Henry who was a big flop in big WC games Are you really suggesting to replace Henry, one of the greatest players in France history and the NT top scorer until November 2022?
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Fri May 05, 2023 2:58 pm |
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El Capo
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:26 am Posts: 3407 Location: Aragua De Barcelona, Venezuela
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Henry being a great french player ≠ Henry being a great France NT player.  Otherwise Benzema should be up there in first 23 too, but he's isn't.
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Fri May 05, 2023 3:21 pm |
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