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MagicDip
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:26 pm Posts: 2135
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Name: Olavo Martins de Oliveira  Country: BrazilClub: Santos FCPosition: ★SB , CBSide: RF/BSAge: 34-36 years (09/11/1927 - † 12/04/2004) Height: 173 cm (Approx.) Weight: 68 kg (Approx.) Attack: 64Defence: 79Balance: 78Stamina: 79Top Speed: 77Acceleration: 76Response: 81Agility: 77Dribble Accuracy: 76Dribble Speed: 73 Short Pass Accuracy: 79Short Pass Speed: 75Long Pass Accuracy: 86Long Pass Speed: 80Shot Accuracy: 63Shot Power: 80Shot Technique: 66Free Kick Accuracy: 69Curling: 70Header: 66Jump: 82Technique: 77Aggression: 65Mentality: 81Goalkeeper Skills: 50Teamwork: 76 Injury Tolerance: BCondition: 5Weak Foot Accuracy: 5Weak Foot Frequency: 4Consistency: 5Growth Type: Standard/LastingCARDS:P06 - Pinpoint Pass S04 - PK Taker S06 - Outside Curve S09 - Covering SPECIAL ABILITIES: Penalties - Outside - Covering Attack/Defence Awareness: Defence-Minded
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Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:58 pm |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 442
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I believe Olavo was always a center-back, not side-back.
If you have a source that shows him as side-back, I would be happy to see.
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Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:53 am |
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Interista93
Joined: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:28 am Posts: 4574
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https://tardesdepacaembu.wordpress.com/ ... -oliveira/He's described here as 171 cm tall. He was indeed right back and centre back, playing mainly on the side during the 1960s. He acted also as right-half in his early career, in case someone has him in their OF as part of Corinthians.
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Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:37 pm |
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MagicDip
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:26 pm Posts: 2135
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To be clear to anyone who don't know me: my sources are full games I watch. https://footballia.net/matches/hamburger-sv-santos-fc
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Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:37 pm |
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StuartBannigan
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:43 pm Posts: 1651
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It’s more probable that he played as a CB for Corinthians, I can’t imagine there was many teams using a 4-2-4 in the 50s.
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Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:15 pm |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 442
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The reason I make some comments on this forum, it is because I believe a very good job has been done here. I suspect the correct formation on this game against Hamburger was a 3-2-5, being Dalmo, Mauro and Olavo the defenders, Lima and Calvet the midfielders, Dorval RW, Bê LW, Mengálvio and Pelé inside forward and Coutinho CF. I suggest you to watch the game again paying a special attention on this. If possible, let me know the link's game, so I can watch it too. Anyway, Im trying to reach a friend that may give us more info.
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Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:44 pm |
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MagicDip
Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:26 pm Posts: 2135
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I already watched that game 2 or 3 times throughout the years, it was a 4-2-4, I have even notes about it: HAMBURGER SV Vs SANTOS - FRIENDLY GAME (20/10/1962)
1 GK SCHNOOR
2 RCB/RB KRUG 5 CB MEINKE 3 LCB/LB KURBJUHN
6 RDMF DIETER SEELER 4 LDMF WERNER
7 RWF FRITZSCHE 8 RSS/AMF KREUZ 9 CF UWE SEELER 10 LSS/AMF BAHRE 11 LWF REUTER
Captain: MEINKE Short Free Kick: FRITZSCHE Long Free Kick: DIETER SEELER/KREUZ/MEINKE/KURBJUHN Free Kick 2: KREUZ Left Corner: REUTER Right Corner: REUTER/KREUZ/FRITZSCHE Penalty: - UP: NONE
RIGHT SIDE AT LEFT SIDE ATT CHANGE SIDES: FRITZSCHE/REUTER COUNTER ATT BALL POSSESSION ATT
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1 GK LAERCIO
4 RB OLAVO 2 RCB MAURO 6 LCB CALVET (16 FORMIGA 14’ - INJURY) 3 LB DALMO
5 RDMF/CMF LIMA 8 LCMF/AMF MENGALVIO
7 RWF DORVAL (17 PAGAO 46’) 9 RCF COUTINHO 10 LSS PELE 11 LWF BE
Captain: MAURO Short Free Kick: PELE Long Free Kick: LIMA/DALMO Free Kick 2: MENGALVIO Left Corner: BE Right Corner: DORVAL/LIMA/PAGAO Penalty: PELE UP: NONE
RIGHT SIDE ATT LEFT SIDE ATT COUNTER ATT
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Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:51 pm |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 442
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Well, here is what I got after research about Olavo. He indeed played as sideback for Santos, I also watched the game you mentioned against Hamburg. But he played as a improvised reserve that he used to be in Santos, filling the vacancies that were open by injuries. At the final against Benfica in 1962 for example, he covered an injuried Mengálvio and Lima was put on the midfield. He was a polivalent player, it is true, but he was mainly a centerback (specially at Corinthians when he had his prime). He was hired for Santos with 34 years old to be this polyvalent player (I also understand this set was made according his Santos' time). But as the discussion started when I saw Olavo at Corinthians AS team as a sideback, it makes sense when I post that I reserve sideback was needed because the team has 5 centerbacks and 2 SB. Also, for the stats is important to notice that he was a great penalty kicker and was the official penalty kicker during a period in Corinthians, marking all the 18 goals he did in the club by penalties. Here is the best article about Olavo I found on the internet: https://acervosantosfc.com/olavo-1961-1965/
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Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:03 pm |
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guilermerr
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:42 am Posts: 71
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would there be a need to change some attribute if I'm creating a version of his phase at Corinthians? in addition to the position and the penalty, which have already been mentioned.
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Thu Mar 09, 2023 5:20 pm |
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Bola Clássica
Joined: Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:52 am Posts: 442
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guilermerr wrote: would there be a need to change some attribute if I'm creating a version of his phase at Corinthians? in addition to the position and the penalty, which have already been mentioned. Well, he was already past his peak and was old, specially for that time. He was a better player at Corinthians for sure, including reaching the National Team with 4 matches between 1955 and 1957.
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Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:26 pm |
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guilermerr
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:42 am Posts: 71
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I understood. but any specific attribute of it do you think has declined a lot?
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Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:36 pm |
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guilermerr
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2022 3:42 am Posts: 71
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Other thing: you say he was polivalent. Do u know if he played in the left side too? Or maybe as DMF? The link you post is off  ( Edit: This source says he was able to play as left side https://tardesdepacaembu.wordpress.com/ ... -oliveira/
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Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:05 am |
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