C.R. Flamengo All Stars

Coach: Paulo César CARPEGIANI






GOALKEEPERS:

Sinforiano GARCÍA
RAUL PLASSMANN


DEFENDERS:

DOMINGOS DA GUIA
JORDAN
JORGINHO
Leovegildo JÚNIOR
LEANDRO
MARINHO
Carlos MOZER


MIDFIELDERS:

ADÍLIO
Jorge ANDRADE
CARLINHOS
Paulo César CARPEGIANI
DEQUINHA
ZICO
ZIZINHO


FORWARDS:

DIDA
GABRIEL BARBOSA
JOEL
LEÔNIDAS
João NUNES
ROMÁRIO
Mário ZAGALLO


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RESERVES:


GOALKEEPERS:

Diego ALVES
Antônio CANTARELI
GILMAR (1959)
JÚLIO CÉSAR


DEFENDERS:

ATHIRSON
Modesto BRÍA
Newton CANEGAL
JADIR
JUAN (1982)
LÉO MOURA
LEONARDO
PAULO HENRIQUE
PAVÃO
José RODRIGUES NETO
Antônio RONDINELLI
TONINHO BAIANO


MIDFIELDERS:

Willian ARÃO
BIGUÁ
Giorgian DE ARRASCAETA
DIEGO
ÉVERTON RIBEIRO
GÉRSON
JAIME DE ALMEIDA (1920)
LIMINHA
MOACIR
Dejan PETKOVIĆ
RENATO ABREU
RUBENS


FORWARDS:

BEBETO
BRUNO HENRIQUE
EVARISTO
Henrique FRADE
ÍNDIO
JARBAS
Durval JUNQUEIRA
NONÔ
PEDRO (1997)
Sylvio PIRILLO
TITA
ZINHO









INFO:

Yes, this is true, and it is an unfortunate truth, but there is no denying that this historical fact changes the order of the factors a bit. The arrival of these championships has greatly increased the size of football, and consequently the size of the players as well. And yes, Leandro and Junior are bigger than him.

I'm a Flamengo fan so I can speak with authority. Gabigol is definitely Flamengo's top 5 history. He was decisive for the title of two Libertadores, the most important thing we can win. We have 8 Brazilian championships and we won two with him being essential. In one he was the top scorer of the championship and in the other he scored in several games of the final rounds, including the victory against Internacional-RS.

Diego Alves, Willian Arão, Gerson, Éverton Ribeiro, Rodrigo Caio and Pedro deserved mention in the reserves more than names like Bebeto, Zinho, Júnior Baiano and Tita. These 4 are not players admired by the fans, although they have some history for the club.

Sorry, but being a fan doesn't necessarily mean that you're automatically correct. I'm an Inter fan and Ronaldo is my favourite ever player, but I wouldn't add him in the first team based on this reason.
Anyway, Gabigol is already in the first team, and so is Éverton Ribeiro in the reserves. I agree with you about adding Diego Alves, Willian Arão and Pedro. I would wait for Rodrigo Caio and Gerson.

If Arão and Diego Alves are included in reserves, I don't see why Filipe Luis can't be too.

Bebeto, Zinho, Júnior Baiano and Tita mentioned as players not admired by the fans is just because they played for rivals of Flamengo afterwards. Three of them played at Vasco (biggest rival). I dont know if it is a valid argument or not. If not, I dont see any reason to exclude them. Considering they were great players in terms of quality, more than the others mentioned.

Regarding the other players not included yet, before to consider them I would first compare them with older and historical players to see if they are really worth. Otherwise the team starts to be too focused on contemporary players and forgetting the past, as many other forums, blogs or traditional media do.

Rodrigo Caio and Filipe Luís are really worth more than Píndaro and Nery for example, called the first classic defense of Brazil history?

Diego Alves was included but titles is enough to surprass Zé Carlos that lived his peak at Flamengo? And what about Amado who played over one decade and was considered one of the best GK from Brazil in his era?

Arão was added but he was worth than Carlos Volante or even Leandro Ávila? In terms of quality I can tell he is way far from Leandro Ávila but of course Arão has the titles.

Gerson is an exception, his quality and importance are undeniable, I believe it is only a matter of time and matches for the club as he is still playing at Flamengo.

Now that Filipe Luís retired, I believe he can get in the squad. Maybe replacing Juan Maldonado or Renato Abreu.

If you wanna take the opportunity to take both out, you can add already Gerson (169 matches and some titles as a fundamental part of the team).

Shouldn't in the Ronaldo Angelim be considered as well? He made part of the team that won the Campeonato Brasileiro 2009, also he won the Copa do Brasil 2006 and 4 Campeonatos Cariocas in a row (2007-2011). Also, he has almost 300 games played for the team. Maybe he could replace Toninho Baiano.

Leonidas could be swapped for Gabigol. Now that he's left the club, it's easier to enter into a genuine debate about it.

Let's get to the numbers:
Leônidas
149 games (or 148)
153 goals (or 148)
Played for flamengo between 1936-1941

Top scorer in the Campeonato Carioca in 1938 (16 goals) and 1940 (30 goals), and in the Torneio Rio-São Paulo in 1940 (13 goals).
8-9th top scorer in Flamengo's history.

Trophies:
1940 Torneio Rio-São Paulo and 1939 Campeonato Carioca.


Gabriel Barbosa:
308 games
161 goals
played for flamengo between 2019-2024

Top scorer in Copa Libertadores: 2019 (9 goals), Campeonato Brasileiro: 2019 (25 goals), Supercopa do Brasil: 2020 (1 goal), Campeonato Carioca: 2020 (8 goals), Copa Libertadores: 2021 (11 goals), Supercopa do Brasil: 2022 (1 goal), Campeonato Carioca: 2022 (9 goals), Supercopa do Brasil: 2023 (2 goals).
6th top scorer in Flamengo's history.

Trophies:
Copa Libertadores: 2019 and 2022, Recopa Sul-Americana: 2020, Campeonato Brasileiro: 2019 and 2020, Copa do Brasil: 2022 and 2024, Supercopa do Brasil: 2020 and 2021, Campeonato Carioca: 2019, 2020, 2021 and 2024.


Leonidas has the edge in terms of skill (he was a better striker than Gabigol) and played in a more difficult time in Brazilian soccer in terms of the quality of the opposition. He also has a higher goal average.

Gabriel has more titles, more goals, has played more games for the club (although both have played almost the same number of years) and the magnitude of his titles and performances are more relevant.

Gabigol is the main player from Flamengo's most successful era, he scored goals that won major titles, and is probably the most representative player for Flamengo outside of the Era Zico.

It's a tough competition, but (in my humble opinion) Gabigol has the better of it.

I agree with the opinions on Filipe Luís expressed by other members.

I also think that Jorge Jesus could be included as a second choice to coach flamengo. he only stayed a short time, but he profoundly influenced the way flamengo would play in the following years and had an almost perfect season, managing to win more trophies than defeats.