Hi guys, for the ones who don't know our history: 11 years ago old forum was close to be deleted because the previous admin disappeared, fortunately our friend Ernesto (AdminForum) saved all our work creating this new forum on his server completely for free, who wants to be grateful with him can donate using Paypal to this email ernesto@russolillo.info

PS just to be clear donate money DON'T allow to enter to HIDDEN SECTION or any part of it.

It doesn't make sense, it's now one of the very few forums that deals with "PES values", I don't know what you're afraid of. I don't donate for this reason, what is this, a joke? you should thank users like me who read and contribute, but no, secret section Area 51. Greetings from Italy.

We should thank you? There’s like 8000 players and 2000 teams available here free of charge, but we have to thank you for what? Rather you should thank guys like JeanMarc, MagicDip, Nakayama etc. that have been making these stats for 10+ years while asking for nothing in return, and the Admin who keeps this forum running for you to use completely for free. The donation is for the Admin who covers all the costs himself, without him 10+ years of research and work would disappear overnight. But sure, maybe we should donate to you instead, to thank you for using the players we made for you for free…

Funny that you mention that this is one of the few forums left that makes PES stats, and then ignore that the reason for this is that the Admin keeps this place open out of his own pocket in an act of pure generosity.

Why are you offended? So what there's some sets you can't see, you get hundreds and hundreds for absolutely FREE. MagicDip, Interista, El Capo, Nakayama, JeanMarc, Gurkenjoe, StuartBannigan, Bola Classica and many others are who we should be thanking, not you who's only been here a couple of years and contributed nothing except complaining.

I would have some personal sets studied by reading articles or watching videos on YouTube, I would gladly post them and I would also make a good donation, because "STATS" are also a passion of mine, I invest hours in this. But really, I repeat, the secret area is discouraging...

It sounds like an excuse to post no sets at all so that you can keep complaining about the hidden section.

I can also publish my sets and I could also make a donation, but they would be nullified anyway, how many sets do I have to post to be enabled, 100?

It's not just about posting hundreds of sets or teams. Complaining and begging for years lead to nothing.

Couldn't have said it better.
Anyway, since most users don't know how important Ernesto has been for us: I joined the community in 2013 when we were still active on PSCD. Few months later we switched to the other forum but then the trouble with the old admin happened. There was the real possiblity of losing all that stuff that had been created at that point because none of us knew how to transfer the entire stuff to a new forum. This is when Doni's friend stepped in despite having no connection to our community before. That guy didn't only save the work prior 2014 but also laid the foundation for all the work that has been done since then. We're speaking about ten years of (mostly) unpaid work and we want to give him something back for this - especially to keep this forum active for more years to come.
@Doni: Thanks for contacting him, I already made a donation

I'll post one set a week, work and commitments permitting, just to show that I don't talk at all.